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Old 06 October 2004, 12:21 PM
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Default Sub 10 second 0-60 estate?

Need a bigger car, but not an MPV! Would like a fast estate, that's cheaper to insure/run than a wagon - any one got any ideas?
Old 06 October 2004, 12:29 PM
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Originally Posted by hyphen
Need a bigger car, but not an MPV! Would like a fast estate, that's cheaper to insure/run than a wagon - any one got any ideas?
Well I run a Skoda Octavia 4x4turbo... seats 5 (ok, 3 kids in the back), remapped, 0-60 in 6.4, can get 44mpg if careful on Mway journeys.

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Old 06 October 2004, 12:31 PM
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looking this way myself as well possibly as a second car due to an expanding family

I am booked in for testdrives on the new 2.5xt forrester turbo which is supposed to out accelerate a new STI ,
and the new legacy 3.0r specB estate
Old 06 October 2004, 12:31 PM
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RS4! Mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
Old 06 October 2004, 12:40 PM
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RS6! double Mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
Old 06 October 2004, 12:47 PM
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Older twin turbo Legacy GT-B? Or a new one from Litchfield. VERY quick! Decent comfort and lotsa herbs

Any of the really fast estates are not going to be really cheap on insurance, and entry cost (or fuel) IMHO.
Old 06 October 2004, 12:49 PM
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Originally Posted by AJbaseBloke
Older twin turbo Legacy GT-B? Or a new one from Litchfield. VERY quick! Decent comfort and lotsa herbs

Any of the really fast estates are not going to be really cheap on insurance, and entry cost (or fuel) IMHO.
Mine is.

(all he asked for was sub 10 second, not sub 5 seconds )
Old 06 October 2004, 12:57 PM
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Mondeo TDCi estate? Cheap to run and insure, and very nice to drive IMO.
Old 06 October 2004, 12:57 PM
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Originally Posted by ianc
Mine is.

(all he asked for was sub 10 second, not sub 5 seconds )
What is the official 0-60 time - ie not remapped?

I was looking at the Skoda website, but didn't find anything with an official figure less than 10? What's the insurance like?
Old 06 October 2004, 01:01 PM
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official is 9.3 I think standard (150bhp)... insurance costs me £650, 28, 5years NCB, 3 points \ 6 "on licence".... is certainly cheaper than a scoob.
Old 06 October 2004, 01:21 PM
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- No way on earth can ou get 44mpg out of a 4x4 octavia -

- And i can recomend the volvo T5. The Police abuse them for a living, as they have done for nearly 10 years. can't get better than that.
Old 06 October 2004, 01:55 PM
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What's the budget? V6 Omegas going for £2k, Scorpios too.
Old 06 October 2004, 01:57 PM
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Nissan Stagea GTR running gear and engine in an estate
Old 06 October 2004, 01:58 PM
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Sadly thinking about trading in the Scoob as the running costs are beginning to run me down
so about £10K
Old 06 October 2004, 04:10 PM
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Hows about a Saab 9-5 Aero Estate.
250bhp, 275lb/ft

I have a saloon version. Quick in a straight line, not good good on the twisties. Tends to suffer from manic understeer and wheelspin in the wet !

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Old 06 October 2004, 04:56 PM
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Most of the suggested choices so far will not be all that cheap to buy, run and Insure.

If you want a REAL economical Daily Driver/Load shifter and would like to still keep the Subaru for "Occasional" use, go for something really basic and cheap to buy, run and Insure.

In your position - I'd get a Montego Diesel Turbo - similar Estate capacity to those bigger Volvos. A near minter would cost well under a grand and although production stopped ten years ago, they sold a huge number over the years and so there are still a few tidy ones about cheap as chips. Quite nippy too!

Oh yes - nearly forgot - a seven seater if you're into heavy breeding ..
Old 06 October 2004, 05:11 PM
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Originally Posted by MGJohn
In your position - I'd get a Montego Diesel Turbo - similar Estate capacity to those bigger Volvos. A near minter would cost well under a grand and although production stopped ten years ago, they sold a huge number over the years and so there are still a few tidy ones about cheap as chips. Quite nippy too!

Oh yes - nearly forgot - a seven seater if you're into heavy breeding ..
WTF!! I'd rather walk....

Second the Saab 9-5 Aero, although for 10k you'll get the 230bhp version, rather than the later 250 - however they can be chipped to 280 for around £500.
Old 06 October 2004, 05:25 PM
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I prefer my volvo idea, but i am a Volvo man. That money will get you in a V70R with all the goodies, £600 buys you the higher of 2 remaps to a plesent 310bhp -

I have this remap in my 850 and it is stagering how brisk they are - LSD standard aswel
Old 06 October 2004, 05:28 PM
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Andy agree the V70 t-5 looks a good proposition also, but they're all bl**dy autos!
Old 06 October 2004, 06:44 PM
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I would second the Octavia, I manage High 30's in mine it originally remapped to 228 bhp although is now about 250 due to a new exhaust & sizeable Intercooler. Fantastic value for money & a great replacement for the STI money pit I use to own.
Have done 2 Cannonballs with it & nothing broke, managed 16th out of 114 this year so not bad for an eastern European Farmers car as some call it, I prefer to class it as an Audi Quatro in disguise.
Old 06 October 2004, 07:04 PM
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For £10k I'd say a nearly new Octavia vRS/4x4 estate is the best bet
Old 06 October 2004, 07:23 PM
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Originally Posted by ScoobyJawa
Nissan Stagea GTR running gear and engine in an estate
Unfortunately this isnt a standard Stagea, its an extremely rare and expensive conversion by a Japanese tuning house. There is an automatic four wheel drive E-WGNC34 with a 2500cc RB25DET engine though called the RS FOUR. It isnt actually that quick though, 235PS and it weighs as much as a bus.

An Avenir is quick and cheap though; imagine the engine form a GTi-R in a steady four wheel drive estate.....

Simon
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Montego, John you are really losing the plot, when is the last time you saw one that wasnt motorway maintenance or covered in moss ?

Second the T5.
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We've just swapped from the scoob to a V40 T4 and its £320 fully comp with Norwich Union - thats with 1 claim and 6 points for me and the wife.
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I'm liking the idea of the Octavia - will have to do some further research

Sounds like it could be a wolf in sheeps clothing

Thanks to all for your suggestions
Old 06 October 2004, 08:34 PM
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Not sure if it's big enough but how about a 1.8VTI Honda Civic Aerodeck (before 2000?) Can probably pick one up well below the £10k budget.
Old 06 October 2004, 08:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Boss Hogg
WTF!! I'd rather walk....

Second the Saab 9-5 Aero, although for 10k you'll get the 230bhp version, rather than the later 250 - however they can be chipped to 280 for around £500.
Then do so ...... but he'd still have the car he really prefers!!
Old 06 October 2004, 08:49 PM
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Originally Posted by J4CKO
Montego, John you are really losing the plot, when is the last time you saw one that wasnt motorway maintenance or covered in moss ?

Second the T5.

Not at all .... Apparently my powers of observation are superior to yours ....

My suggestion means he keeps the car he really wants ... plot whereabouts ....that point was surely lost on you!
Old 06 October 2004, 09:32 PM
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Go to BRISKODA if you want out about Octavia 4X4 estate. I'm thinking of getting one...Impreza's are no good for where I live (People want them off you without paying!!!). Nick a Skoda you'd have to be daft...top cars now though bad badge rep.
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OCTAVIA 4X4 Estate with Jabbasport remap is a proper Q-car.


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