bwm series 1 coupe and sedan!!Scoop photo
17 May 2004, 11:01 AM
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bwm series 1 coupe and sedan!!Scoop photo
http://www.fastdrive.org/news.php?extend.47
photos and cool article
photos and cool article
17 May 2004, 02:41 PM
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I know it's depressing. Bit like the Alfa thing on Top Gear last night. Problem is people have preconceived ideas about cars and it takes a lot to change that.
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17 May 2004, 05:03 PM
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Yup, plus the general populous believe everything they read and hear, for example :
1) The RS Focus has horrendous torque steer
2) 4X4 Offroaders are much safer in accidents
3) The new Golf GTi - a real drivers car
4) The new C2 GT - A 'Red Hot Rallybred supermini'
5) The BMW 1 series - Class leading Golf rival.
Actually,
1) No it doesn't, it has a quaife diff that requires a little driver involvement
2) Possibly in a 'head-on' or incident involving grass, but evasive manouvres ?
3) B*ll*cks !!!
4) 0-60 in 9.5 is NOT Red Hot
5) Class leader in daring but ugly maybe !!!
Oh well - just you and me then eh Chris ?
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1) The RS Focus has horrendous torque steer
2) 4X4 Offroaders are much safer in accidents
3) The new Golf GTi - a real drivers car
4) The new C2 GT - A 'Red Hot Rallybred supermini'
5) The BMW 1 series - Class leading Golf rival.
Actually,
1) No it doesn't, it has a quaife diff that requires a little driver involvement
2) Possibly in a 'head-on' or incident involving grass, but evasive manouvres ?
3) B*ll*cks !!!
4) 0-60 in 9.5 is NOT Red Hot
5) Class leader in daring but ugly maybe !!!
Oh well - just you and me then eh Chris ?
Matt
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Originally Posted by Muffleman
Yup, plus the general populous believe everything they read and hear, for example :
3) The new Golf GTi - a real drivers car
3) B*ll*cks !!!
3) The new Golf GTi - a real drivers car
3) B*ll*cks !!!
17 May 2004, 08:38 PM
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Well I stand to be corrected on the just announced all new Golf GTi with the 2.0T, but I was basing that on the 1.8T I drove not too long ago. You can't seriously believe that the outgoing GTi is a real drivers car can you ? A few years ago, I still had an original 1.6GTi - now that was a fun drive ! Far removed from the anaesthetised luke warm offerings of late.
I hope the all new GTi is a return to what started it all, but somehow I suspect it won't be.
Matt
I hope the all new GTi is a return to what started it all, but somehow I suspect it won't be.
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17 May 2004, 10:12 PM
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I had a 1.6 GTi many moons ago 115 bhp engine with no power steering - first decent car I owned and the only one I have ever regretted selling. Oh for that level of feedback in the Scoob, but I guess you can't have everything.
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