Scuzzlebutt

Hey guys 'n' gals...

I was wonderin' if anyone knows (or knows who knows) what tuning options are available for a Civic Type R - you know exhaust, chip, etc.

Let us know if ya do!!!

PS - Its coming in 3 months and I cant feckin wait!!!!

Scuzz

jameswrx

iTrader: (4)

yeah get exhaust and filter but dunno what makes they do for em

I would say though you could get an Apexi type r controller which allows you to adjust the point the car comes on cam, which I should imagine would be handy to suit your driving mood, oh and it looks good too
James

gavgti

Ive got an ABP induction kit on mine, cost about £120,its basicaly a Blitz replica filter,and when the V-tec comes in it sounds immense!!!!!!! not sure if i gained any power but the noise is worth the money alone.

Dark Blue Mark

Id be quite worried about messing with a VTEC engine. There are a number of good tuners out there, have a search, and find a good one. The engines themselves are pretty bulletproof, but the VTEC is quite complex and I wouldn't like to play with it chip wise!

MB

kenny.c

scuzzlebutt---- The civic-r, with the mugen exhaust+maniflod,ecu and induction kit was producing around 240bhp but to buy the mugen bits ur talking around £3k.

If I'm not mistaken mardis gras racing prepares civic type -r for track use....but I don't have their number.......be aware they're expensive.

stu_allen

Theres no Apexi controler for i-vtec engines yet.
Do a search on http://www.civictype-r.co.uk/ and http://forum.hondarevolutions.com - there are umpteen exhausts, a lot of filters that sound good but lose power, a couple that work (the mugen one is highly recommended), no chips suitable for the european car.
Best things to do - exhaust & filter, and a LSD from Spoon.

S.B.

NOS...

Claudius

I wouldnt recommend changing the exhaust before you get an ECU to adjust the fuelling. Check the aformentioned sites

Dark Blue Mark

Yes - must have nitrous. One day I will get some

MB

andrewdelvard

It is very difficult to tune Honda engines for power increases and, wouldn't you just know it, very expensive. Do not expect automatic power increases from simple bolt-ons. You can just as easily loose power.Stick to recognised honda specialists like Spoon and of course Mugen. They maybe expensive but you WILL see gains. As for http://www.mardigras.co.uk/ being expensive, yeah well, thats true but you do get value for money, they don't make empty promises,give only the facts and more importantly if there is a better Honda Tuner here in the UK...I've never heard of them.

Pie_n_Chips

Why on gods green earth would you want to up the power, your comming from a 1.nothing pug 306 to a 197 brake Type R, get used to this power before you put yourself in a hedge

ChrisB

He dreams of keeping up with me

ChrisB

You too mate.

I'm off to swear at SBS 2000 again [img]images/smilies/mad.gif[/img]

lpitt

Hi there,

My CTR turned one a few weeks back and now has a BMC CDA Induction Kit and a Magnex CATback exhaust fitted.

Just with these the torque curve is much steeper than standard, also the mid-rance (first VTEC zone) is stronger. I have had it RR's but the figures are so 'based on the day' that it's just for fun really. I'm quite happy to say 200bhp+

There is no Apexi controller available for the iVTEC currently.

It is also very difficult to chip a CTR due to the way in which Honda developed the ECU. IMHO this is a final option though once you've done everything else!

Next mods for mine (finance allowing) will be:

Limited Slip Differential
NOS once the warranty expires

As everyone says modding a Type-R is harder than a Scooby. The Scooby will give a better return for your money from changes. However, this just makes the Type-R more of a challenge.

Laurence

zero_to60

I'd have thought 200bhp would be more than enough going through the front wheels

lpitt

When is anything ever enough

I'm nicely over 200BHP on my CTR and counting

DJ Dunk

iTrader: (5)

The Magnex looks good Wheres my credit card ? . . . .

DJ Dunk

iTrader: (5)

Laurence - Whats the benefit of the cat-back over the silencer only option ?

lpitt

Funny you should ask that!

When I did the exhaust on my Scooby the first thing to replace was the CATback, but this was because of the second CAT on an Impreza.

When I did the CTR this didn't occur to me and then I felt ripped off especially as Magnex don't offer a backbox only.

So I looked at what I was getting.

Basically, the middle piece on the CTR is slightly wider and therefore less restrictive than standard. Probably enough for around .05bhp I reckon but less restrictive all the same.

Hope that helps

NOS for me next once the LSD is fitted

Laurence

Sparky1066

The Type R is already tuned to the nuts as standard. The engines are entirely hand built, it has the best cam shaft you could put in it, and it has already had the ports polished, from the factory.

Boyakasha

iTrader: (2)

Sparky, sorry to rain on your parade but the CTR engine is not like the days of old when they used to hand polish them. Remember they are made in Swindow

PS I have a Induction kit and Magnex cat back and I got 213.5bhp on a RR day

andrewdelvard

...And here's an interesting article about how Honda port and polish the engines by hand


http://www.vtec.net/articles/view-article?article_id=3428

lpitt

Boyakasha, is yours made in Swindow? Mines from Swindon

Seriously, the CTR engine is only hand finished and not hand built as the ITR and NSX engines are. It's also made in Japan and shipped over to the UK for fitting (guess they didn't trust us!).

I wouldn't exactly say that the UK CTR is 'tuned to the nuts' though. The JDM version has a less restrictive downpipe, CAT and backbox, different gearing, different ECU and LSD for starters. It puts out around 220bhp I think. That's tuned to the nuts

Laurence

Type R

IMHO

LSD
Exhaust
Manifold
ECU - Programable
Coilovers

In that order, the EP3 needs an LSD, putting much more power through the wheels, and cornering will become tiresome not fun.

Problem with buying Mugen and Spoon parts is they won't necessarily work, or fit on the the UK EP3.

I agree Honda tune the nad's off there engines but it is possible to get more and the iVTEC is the more tunable IMHO, I have spent a few K on my EK9, and will be happy at knocking out 200+ BHP, and a 17BHP increase, not bad for a 1.6

lpitt

Type R, have I come across you somewhere else

Nearly right, you missed out induction around exhaust.

I've actually done a fair amount of research this week into adding LSD to my CTR. It seems that on a cost/support basis the Quaife diff is going to be the best. It's got a good reputation and isn't as expensive as Spoon or Mugen where you're partially paying for the shipping from Japan etc.

The ECU will be interesting as well since the CTR has a weird setup here. That's the reason there's no SuperChip being developed (not that I'd have one anyway!).

I'm going to have a chat with Quaife at Autosport on Sunday and see what they can do. They told me there will be someone there who understands the CTR LSD.

Laurence

Sparky1066

mmmmm, I was gonna say, where the f*ck is Swindow? is that near Madagascar?

Ali-T

Didn't trust Swindon to build the engine? Wonder why? Maybe because they can't build a rattle free dashboard?

Seriously though, ignore engine mods to start with. The problem isn't the power, it's using it. Get an LSD ASAP. I know the support for the Quaife is better but with the FRS proving such a nasty road car and the Spoon diff being particularly gentle in its actions, I'd pay the extra and get the Spoon, or Mugen, diff.

Me, I'm leaving it totally standard. Tuning costs too much and I want my RX-8 ASAP

lpitt

I'm hoping to meet someone from Quaife at the weekend who can help here. Apparently the CTR version won't be as snatchy as the FRS is but we'll see.

Ali: RX8! Shocked!

Personally I'm planning to keep the CTR until it's four (probably with around 90k on the clock) and then move to something along the lines of a 350Z

Laurence

Type R

Oops missed out the CAI

FASTER MIKE!!

supercharge it