Edging towards a porsche but a nearly new scoob for the same money????

Which one?

 

It's gotta be the pig if you can afford the running costs and it's mint!

 

or a 2003 wrx

 

Look at the two and tell me the 911 isn't the glamour model and the WRX the ugly bird that lives next door to your Gran!

If it's down to running costs then the new car's the one. But........

 

what kind of running costs

 

Insurance, servicing, clutch, head, pads, disks, exhausts, cooling, turbo. Juice consumption won't be much different, but for a car going on 13yrs old you're bound to find some expensive faults.

I'm not a porker expert, but there are many on here that are.

 

insurance for porsche £400 cheaper (£600 quote) than current VR4 and most wear and tear parts are cheaper

 

Nathan is correct (not that I'm biased )
Having had both I can confirm that a 964 is generally acknowledged as a lemon - it'll take every penny you've got before you throw the keys away !
Buy a good 3.2 and its the nearest thing to a depreciation proof car at the moment - prices are strong....servicing is reasonable and reliability good.

Gastro

 

Nathan,

The 3.2 is goooood.....
Using it for daily transport - getting 25mpg (not bad )
Had the clutch done (I knew it needed it before I bought it) ---> but that was £1K fitted ...
But boy has it got some grunt - forget turbo's - torque from 1500rpm is v. nice + combined with the most wonderful engine noise its heaven for me
Not to mention drop dead gorgeous looks
Only downside is no power steering - but then again you get fantastic wheel feedback......

Gastro

 

90 ish 911 (964) has manually adjustable tappets as opposed to hydraulic lifters in later models (993) to adjust the lifters, due every other service, the entire exhaust system has to be removed. I f no remedial work becomes due, that will set you back about £700 if done at specialist. Go to AFN and it will be more!
I would go for a 3.2 Carrera, better all around, and will not depreciate as much. If you do opt for a 964, budget at least £2-£2500 per year on service & tyres.

 

There's a good review on 964's on Pistonheads at the mo.

I always think you'd treat an older car with kid gloves, whereas a newer car you can thrash and forget. Depends what you want it for I spose.

 

also i am told 90-91 964's can have oil leak problems

as the engine grew from 2.4 to 2.7 to 3.0 to 3.2 they didnt need head gaskets. when they launched 964 (3.6 i think) they had reached the tolerance limits. i think the my92 car had head gaskets for first time.

a top end rebuild on a 911 is at least 3500. my old sc had one done and the receipt was as long as your arm...

however having said that i prefer the sc/ carrera 3.2 shape and they are very reliable if looked after..........

 

Get the scooby, the porkers around that era were not great cars and look a bit poor.

The older 80s porkers or the 993+ are the ones, the 964 just seemed a bit cack to me. The RS versions were nice though!!

If you want a Porsche then get one but I hope you have deep pockets. Get the Scooby and wait another day to get a real Porker.

 

Have a look at

http://www.chpltd.com/911_porsche_world/classifieds.html

IMHO
Porsches are supercars you can use as everyday transport unlike a lot of others.

Get is checked out by a specialist

MUST have a Full service history, if not main dealer then a specialist, worth next to nothing without

 

just had a look at emperor imports on the ad banner, 16,300 for a brand new scoob, sounds good but has anyone dealt with them or know delivery details.

 

just had a look at emperor imports on the ad banner, 16,300 for a brand new scoob, sounds good but has anyone dealt with them or know delivery details.

 

just had a look at emperor imports on the ad banner, 16,300 for a brand new scoob, sounds good but has anyone dealt with them or know delivery details.

 

For daily drive or as a fun car? Doesn't actually matter though. If the prices were roughly on par here I'd have a Porsche instead of the Scooby in the garage.

 

I recently went through the same thought process, and plumped for a 1989 3.2 Carrera (avoided 964 due to reasons mentioned above). Scoob's quick but left me, well, a little cold to be honest. I bought mine as a toy opposed to something I have to use every day (occasionally use it for work though)and I really didn't find the Scoob very rewarding to drive. I'll still be learning about Porsche handling in 5 years, whereas I was bored in the Impreza in 5 minutes. Add in the depreciation factor and there really was no comparison.

 

father_jack
posted Friday, November 29, 2002 16:20
There's a good review on 964's on Pistonheads at the mo.

Cheers for that Father Jack, I'm glad you think so coz I wrote it

Alex.

 

Yep. I pulled together much of what I had found out recently.
Definately given up on the idea of a 964 now. If you're gonna have that type of "character" may as well have a TVR.