1990ish porsche 911 or a 1 yr old bugeye scoob?
28 November 2002, 12:52 AM
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Look at the two and tell me the 911 isn't the glamour model and the WRX the ugly bird that lives next door to your Gran!
If it's down to running costs then the new car's the one. But........
If it's down to running costs then the new car's the one. But........
28 November 2002, 12:59 AM
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Insurance, servicing, clutch, head, pads, disks, exhausts, cooling, turbo. Juice consumption won't be much different, but for a car going on 13yrs old you're bound to find some expensive faults.
I'm not a porker expert, but there are many on here that are.
I'm not a porker expert, but there are many on here that are.
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28 November 2002, 06:00 PM
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Nathan is correct (not that I'm biased 
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Having had both I can confirm that a 964 is generally acknowledged as a lemon - it'll take every penny you've got before you throw the keys away !
Buy a good 3.2 and its the nearest thing to a depreciation proof car at the moment - prices are strong....servicing is reasonable and reliability good.
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)Having had both I can confirm that a 964 is generally acknowledged as a lemon - it'll take every penny you've got before you throw the keys away !
Buy a good 3.2 and its the nearest thing to a depreciation proof car at the moment - prices are strong....servicing is reasonable and reliability good.
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29 November 2002, 12:33 AM
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Nathan,
The 3.2 is goooood.....
Using it for daily transport - getting 25mpg (not bad)
Had the clutch done (I knew it needed it before I bought it) ---> but that was £1K fitted
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But boy has it got some grunt - forget turbo's - torque from 1500rpm is v. nice + combined with the most wonderful engine noise its heaven for me
Not to mention drop dead gorgeous looks
Only downside is no power steering - but then again you get fantastic wheel feedback......
Gastro
The 3.2 is goooood.....
Using it for daily transport - getting 25mpg (not bad
)Had the clutch done (I knew it needed it before I bought it) ---> but that was £1K fitted
...But boy has it got some grunt - forget turbo's - torque from 1500rpm is v. nice + combined with the most wonderful engine noise its heaven for me
Not to mention drop dead gorgeous looks
Only downside is no power steering - but then again you get fantastic wheel feedback......
Gastro
29 November 2002, 04:14 PM
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90 ish 911 (964) has manually adjustable tappets as opposed to hydraulic lifters in later models (993) to adjust the lifters, due every other service, the entire exhaust system has to be removed. I f no remedial work becomes due, that will set you back about £700 if done at specialist. Go to AFN and it will be more!
I would go for a 3.2 Carrera, better all around, and will not depreciate as much. If you do opt for a 964, budget at least £2-£2500 per year on service & tyres.
I would go for a 3.2 Carrera, better all around, and will not depreciate as much. If you do opt for a 964, budget at least £2-£2500 per year on service & tyres.
29 November 2002, 04:20 PM
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There's a good review on 964's on Pistonheads at the mo.
I always think you'd treat an older car with kid gloves, whereas a newer car you can thrash and forget. Depends what you want it for I spose.
I always think you'd treat an older car with kid gloves, whereas a newer car you can thrash and forget. Depends what you want it for I spose.
29 November 2002, 04:26 PM
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also i am told 90-91 964's can have oil leak problems
as the engine grew from 2.4 to 2.7 to 3.0 to 3.2 they didnt need head gaskets. when they launched 964 (3.6 i think) they had reached the tolerance limits. i think the my92 car had head gaskets for first time.
a top end rebuild on a 911 is at least 3500. my old sc had one done and the receipt was as long as your arm...
however having said that i prefer the sc/ carrera 3.2 shape and they are very reliable if looked after..........
as the engine grew from 2.4 to 2.7 to 3.0 to 3.2 they didnt need head gaskets. when they launched 964 (3.6 i think) they had reached the tolerance limits. i think the my92 car had head gaskets for first time.
a top end rebuild on a 911 is at least 3500. my old sc had one done and the receipt was as long as your arm...
however having said that i prefer the sc/ carrera 3.2 shape and they are very reliable if looked after..........
29 November 2002, 04:29 PM
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Get the scooby, the porkers around that era were not great cars and look a bit poor.
The older 80s porkers or the 993+ are the ones, the 964 just seemed a bit cack to me. The RS versions were nice though!!
If you want a Porsche then get one but I hope you have deep pockets. Get the Scooby and wait another day to get a real Porker.
The older 80s porkers or the 993+ are the ones, the 964 just seemed a bit cack to me. The RS versions were nice though!!
If you want a Porsche then get one but I hope you have deep pockets. Get the Scooby and wait another day to get a real Porker.
30 November 2002, 04:13 PM
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Have a look at
http://www.chpltd.com/911_porsche_world/classifieds.html
IMHO
Porsches are supercars you can use as everyday transport unlike a lot of others.
Get is checked out by a specialist
MUST have a Full service history, if not main dealer then a specialist, worth next to nothing without
http://www.chpltd.com/911_porsche_world/classifieds.html
IMHO
Porsches are supercars you can use as everyday transport unlike a lot of others.
Get is checked out by a specialist
MUST have a Full service history, if not main dealer then a specialist, worth next to nothing without
07 December 2002, 11:52 AM
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I recently went through the same thought process, and plumped for a 1989 3.2 Carrera (avoided 964 due to reasons mentioned above). Scoob's quick but left me, well, a little cold to be honest. I bought mine as a toy opposed to something I have to use every day (occasionally use it for work though)and I really didn't find the Scoob very rewarding to drive. I'll still be learning about Porsche handling in 5 years, whereas I was bored in the Impreza in 5 minutes. Add in the depreciation factor and there really was no comparison.
07 December 2002, 02:52 PM
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father_jack
posted Friday, November 29, 2002 16:20
There's a good review on 964's on Pistonheads at the mo.
Cheers for that Father Jack, I'm glad you think so coz I wrote it
Alex.
posted Friday, November 29, 2002 16:20
There's a good review on 964's on Pistonheads at the mo.
Cheers for that Father Jack, I'm glad you think so coz I wrote it
Alex.
09 December 2002, 11:08 AM
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Yep. I pulled together much of what I had found out recently.
Definately given up on the idea of a 964 now. If you're gonna have that type of "character" may as well have a TVR.
Definately given up on the idea of a 964 now. If you're gonna have that type of "character" may as well have a TVR.
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