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Old 30 January 2013, 12:20 PM
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/ar...ge-unfair.html
Old 30 January 2013, 12:24 PM
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Yes, but this is just a small handful of people doing this and is totally misrepresented.......
Old 30 January 2013, 12:38 PM
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Yes, but this is just a small handful of people doing this and is totally misrepresented.......
A handflul of people do you really think that? There are estate after estate, high rise after high rise full of these people in most major towns.

This is a career choice for these n*bs they think benefits are a given right and have no responsibilities at all not even for their own kids!!
They even justified their payout by saying their families paid in WTF?,
I know of families where 3 generations of them have never worked and have no intention to. They just use the system while we work are asses off and get taxed more!

I'll say it again, why would you have a child if you have not got a job?
Old 30 January 2013, 12:40 PM
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Pair of wasters, they deserve nothing given ther attitude.
Old 30 January 2013, 12:43 PM
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So exactly when is Cameron going to start sorting out the benefits system? He said that was one of his aims over 2 years ago!
Old 30 January 2013, 12:44 PM
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I can't stand the *****... Why have a kid f you can't afford to look after one!!
Old 30 January 2013, 12:45 PM
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What's James Arthur doing on benefits now anyway?
Old 30 January 2013, 01:12 PM
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Originally Posted by f1_fan
What's James Arthur doing on benefits now anyway?
Go to Speccys, F1. He looks nothing like James Arthur. For a start, he has half an eyebrow for each of his eyes, whereas Arthur has none at all.

Anyway, I thought you get your @rse kicked these days by this Tory government if you are idle?? How come they pull in 17 grand for doing nothing? I don't get it.
Old 30 January 2013, 01:18 PM
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Originally Posted by f1_fan
So exactly when is Cameron going to start sorting out the benefits system? He said that was one of his aims over 2 years ago!
Never! As he doesn't know it is happening, I really doubt he reads the DM and the guradian wouldn't report such an insignificant story because it doesn't affect the toffs.
Old 30 January 2013, 01:21 PM
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There was an article in the Express last week something similar to this...

There was a foreign lady in her twenties saying how strange the system is here in the UK. It had a breakdown of what she gets, and it came to about £350 per week from benefits, PLUS she made a special effort to work less than 16 hours a week, so she was still entitled to these benefits, which took her take-home money to £450 a week.

When you see it broken down like this, it shows you how terrible and crazy it really is.
Old 30 January 2013, 01:25 PM
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No point blaming the people. You have to blame the system..............
The welfare state needs revising bigtime...........
Although removing benefits altogether will only bring back poverty.....I'm all for it lol

We can send them off to the workhouses
Old 30 January 2013, 01:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Turbohot
Anyway, I thought you get your @rse kicked these days by this Tory government if you are idle?? How come they pull in 17 grand for doing nothing? I don't get it.
I can give you a hint..... lying politicians! Or should that just be politicians as the lying is kind of implicit!
Old 30 January 2013, 01:35 PM
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Originally Posted by LSherratt
There was an article in the Express last week something similar to this...

There was a foreign lady in her twenties saying how strange the system is here in the UK. It had a breakdown of what she gets, and it came to about £350 per week from benefits, PLUS she made a special effort to work less than 16 hours a week, so she was still entitled to these benefits, which took her take-home money to £450 a week.

When you see it broken down like this, it shows you how terrible and crazy it really is.

Exactly!

I don't mind telling you I've had the snip, I did this because me and my wife cannot afford anymore children and I wanted my wife off the pill, it just seems if you make and ignorant decision to have children you cannot afford the government thinks you should have the same quality of life as someone who works 6 days a week!!!

It's wrong, very very wrong!

I know of families who make a choice to live in a council house and because of this have more disposable income than any working person I know, more holidays, uggs, Ipads etc and openly say you must be daft for working so hard for a lifestyle that's not as rich as theirs!


I will add yes it is the systems fault for allowing this but I equate it to taking sweets from a child, it's easily done but we know it's not right.

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Heard on the radio this morning about welfare cards beng issued,and you can't buy **** or booze with it...
Old 30 January 2013, 01:36 PM
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Yes, yes, the state benefits scroungers are at the bottom of the whole problem, just like it was the public sector and their pensions when the Tories got in.

They will blame anyone but their pals the bankers.

First you vilify in the media, then you can do what you want.......now haven't we seen THAT somewhere before?
Old 30 January 2013, 01:40 PM
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I'd rather work and live in a decent house with fewer luxuries, compared to a council house.

I'm really stereotyping here, but I'm sure that people that live in council houses look like the above people in that article, and probably a lot of them single parents. Slugs.

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Originally Posted by f1_fan
I can give you a hint..... lying politicians! Or should that just be politicians as the lying is kind of implicit!
Yes, they have to be naturally good at lying, so just 'politicians' is enough to refer to the root cause of the problem.
Old 30 January 2013, 01:43 PM
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IMO if they want to keep their benefits technically the government own their ***** so they should be bound to employment from local councils to do things people that community service do. Things that no one will do anymore, jobs like cleaning graffiti off buildings etc. They'd soon get there ***** into Asda stacking shelves then.
Old 30 January 2013, 01:45 PM
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Originally Posted by alcazar
They will blame anyone but their pals the bankers.
Kinell, Jeff, give it an effing rest will you??
Old 30 January 2013, 01:47 PM
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Originally Posted by f1_fan
What's James Arthur doing on benefits now anyway?
Hahahahahaha @ James Arthur...... he's an ugly **** too
I see the likeness..
Old 30 January 2013, 01:48 PM
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Originally Posted by BenC
IMO if they want to keep their benefits technically the government own their ***** so they should be bound to employment from local councils to do things people that community service do. Things that no one will do anymore, jobs like cleaning graffiti off buildings etc. They'd soon get there ***** into Asda stacking shelves then.
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Originally Posted by Dr Hu
Hahahahahaha @ James Arthur...... he's an ugly **** too
I see the likeness..
Thought it was just me
Old 30 January 2013, 02:14 PM
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...and just to add some more petrol to the fire....
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukne...ry-admits.html
Old 30 January 2013, 03:47 PM
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They spend £22.50 A WEEK on TV..... WTF?
Old 30 January 2013, 04:37 PM
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There's more to it than just blaming them. The problem is that wages for the low skilled are falling, yet the cost of living is rocketing. If you remove benefits, the consequence will be more poverty. Fine, but be prepared to accept it.
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Must be a hard life on benefits, he looks rough as f*** for a twenty-one year old.
Old 30 January 2013, 04:43 PM
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It's their own fault they have low/no skills.
So yes we can blame them completely.
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Originally Posted by paulr
There's more to it than just blaming them. The problem is that wages for the low skilled are falling, yet the cost of living is rocketing. If you remove benefits, the consequence will be more poverty. Fine, but be prepared to accept it.
A very valid point. There is no defence for some workshy layabout screwing the system, but there are very few low skilled jobs that pay a wage that someone can live on. The influx of foreign EU nationals who will do twice the work for half the pay further compounds the problem. The employers and company owners may well be benefiting from this cheap and plentiful labour but it is squeezing the low skilled.
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Drop outs.
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Originally Posted by paulr
There's more to it than just blaming them. The problem is that wages for the low skilled are falling, yet the cost of living is rocketing. If you remove benefits, the consequence will be more poverty. Fine, but be prepared to accept it.
Not sure if you're suggesting that everyone should be paid a lot more?

As far as I can tell the wages are rising each year or stagnating depending on the employer. However the cost of living is rising quicker.

I'd happily pay my staff 30k per year each, however the cost of making the products we produce would soar, people would stop ordering and we'd all be out of a job.

I have two members of staff whinging about their pay consistently, how unfair it is etc. yet they still find enough to buy 50 **** per week. These are also the same people refusing to put themselves out and work overtime. I have no sympathy.

Benefits should be there to help people when they need it, not be a lifestyle choice.


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