Any 3D Tv Gurus on here?
25 November 2012, 08:16 PM
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Any 3D Tv Gurus on here?
Hi guys,
Bought a new TV today and have just realised that the damn cables are all in teh wall, now I "think" they are 1.3b, but really cant be sure, is there any way to tell from teh connectors themselves? I am assuming not?
Also, are there any good 3D movies available for download, demo stuff, like they show in teh Shops so I can test if its working or not?
Damn Bluray players not 3D compatible either, so going to have to replace that too FFS. Damn AV... it will bankrupt me.
Finally, ref the 3D "compatability" of interfacing equipment, how can I tell if my AV system is going to pass through the 3D sigbnal? what is the deciding factor here? The bandwidth of the port, or does it need some form of processing system?
Bought a new TV today and have just realised that the damn cables are all in teh wall, now I "think" they are 1.3b, but really cant be sure, is there any way to tell from teh connectors themselves? I am assuming not?
Also, are there any good 3D movies available for download, demo stuff, like they show in teh Shops so I can test if its working or not?
Damn Bluray players not 3D compatible either, so going to have to replace that too FFS. Damn AV... it will bankrupt me.
Finally, ref the 3D "compatability" of interfacing equipment, how can I tell if my AV system is going to pass through the 3D sigbnal? what is the deciding factor here? The bandwidth of the port, or does it need some form of processing system?
25 November 2012, 08:49 PM
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just buy the high speed 1.4a cables and be done with it. I have about 60 of the 3d bluerays although I have hardly watched any. I can tell you 3d films arn't all that as they only have limited 3d parts.
If youwant to see some good 3d in a blueray you will mainly have to stick with a cgi film. Avatar has good 3d so has Yogi Bear and also The Smurfs. It really is that bad if you want to see good 3d.
Other films will have ok 3d but those will impress you, I would prefer to watch a good 1080p film than suffer sitting with my glasses on watching a 3d film that only has say 8 minutes of 3d footage.
I use an Ac ryan and it plays all my films great
If youwant to see some good 3d in a blueray you will mainly have to stick with a cgi film. Avatar has good 3d so has Yogi Bear and also The Smurfs. It really is that bad if you want to see good 3d.
Other films will have ok 3d but those will impress you, I would prefer to watch a good 1080p film than suffer sitting with my glasses on watching a 3d film that only has say 8 minutes of 3d footage.
I use an Ac ryan and it plays all my films great
25 November 2012, 08:50 PM
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You must be on benefits if 3d will bankrupt you lol
3d blu rays players are 60 quid upwards and TV's are 400 quid upwards
3d is 1.4 so your amp would need to pass 1.4 I guess (AFAIK it is a tag on the digital stream that says it is 3d and what type ie SBS etc)
I have the Onkyo 607 wich isnt 1.4 but my blu ray isnt 3d either
There are plenty of torrents out there with the demo's the shops use
Try the LG one with the Potato Cod it is truly stunning
3d blu rays players are 60 quid upwards and TV's are 400 quid upwards
3d is 1.4 so your amp would need to pass 1.4 I guess (AFAIK it is a tag on the digital stream that says it is 3d and what type ie SBS etc)
I have the Onkyo 607 wich isnt 1.4 but my blu ray isnt 3d either
There are plenty of torrents out there with the demo's the shops use
Try the LG one with the Potato Cod it is truly stunning
25 November 2012, 10:47 PM
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I didn't do this either on my recent barn conversion and just had 3 lots of coax and 1 x Cat 6 in (and was upset when I then connected and thought one cable was dodgy, but it was a dodgy connector), but some suggest conduits in the walls rather than putting in cables forever that will become outdated. I wondered that about your dyno cell project where you'd doubled up for redundancy, but there you had removable conduit panels to be able to rewire? Not so practical in a house, but conduit with pull strings could be?
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25 November 2012, 10:53 PM
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I didn't do this either on my recent barn conversion and just had 3 lots of coax and 1 x Cat 6 in (and was upset when I then connected and thought one cable was dodgy, but it was a dodgy connector), but some suggest conduits in the walls rather than putting in cables forever that will become outdated. I wondered that about your dyno cell project where you'd doubled up for redundancy, but there you had removable conduit panels to be able to rewire? Not so practical in a house, but conduit with pull strings could be?
25 November 2012, 11:04 PM
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If there is room in the conduit could you not run a couple of cat5e or cat6 (cat5e is much thinner) cable and the use hdmi convertors ?
If it is digital though and just a bunch of 0's and 1's not quite sure why the cable matters too much unless wired differently, in which case could you not just change the ends
If it is digital though and just a bunch of 0's and 1's not quite sure why the cable matters too much unless wired differently, in which case could you not just change the ends
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25 November 2012, 11:41 PM
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Funny you should link to that page, been on there ages and learnt a LOT.
There is no such thing as a 1.3 or 1.4 cable. It's all manufacturers smoke and mirrors!
There is no such thing as a 1.3 or 1.4 cable. It's all manufacturers smoke and mirrors!
26 November 2012, 12:31 AM
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I had this early this year,
unless your HDMI cabke is as old as the hills, then you should be fine.
I used the Panny hdmi cable from 4 years ago when i replaced my 2d with 3d, and it was fine, i bought cheap tecknica stuff from Tesco for the tv upstairs, and thats fine also ( as in does 3D with ease
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unless your HDMI cabke is as old as the hills, then you should be fine.
I used the Panny hdmi cable from 4 years ago when i replaced my 2d with 3d, and it was fine, i bought cheap tecknica stuff from Tesco for the tv upstairs, and thats fine also ( as in does 3D with ease
Mart
26 November 2012, 12:32 AM
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Yes, actually, I have two, but they just aren't a patch on a decent standalone player when viewed on a good panel. Not sure how their codecs are doing nowadays as they didn't used to be able to output Dolby True HD either, although that might have changed now. Not turned mine on in over 2 years.
26 November 2012, 12:34 AM
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I had this early this year,
unless your HDMI cabke is as old as the hills, then you should be fine.
I used the Panny hdmi cable from 4 years ago when i replaced my 2d with 3d, and it was fine, i bought cheap tecknica stuff from Tesco for the tv upstairs, and thats fine also ( as in does 3D with ease
Mart
unless your HDMI cabke is as old as the hills, then you should be fine.
I used the Panny hdmi cable from 4 years ago when i replaced my 2d with 3d, and it was fine, i bought cheap tecknica stuff from Tesco for the tv upstairs, and thats fine also ( as in does 3D with ease
Mart
26 November 2012, 01:31 AM
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Yes, actually, I have two, but they just aren't a patch on a decent standalone player when viewed on a good panel. Not sure how their codecs are doing nowadays as they didn't used to be able to output Dolby True HD either, although that might have changed now. Not turned mine on in over 2 years.
All PS3's output Dolby True HD,its just the old ones decode it internally and send it to your amp via HDMI as LPCM & you have to change your PS3 to output "LPCM" via HDMI which meant that it wouldn't show up on the amps display panel or light up the True HD light.
The new shape PS3's output Dolby True HD as a bitstream so now your amp can decode it & it will show up on the amp's dislpay panel & light up the True HD light.
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26 November 2012, 11:56 AM
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By the new shape do you mean the very latest? Or the thin one from a few years ago? I have the original fat one, and the thinner one, but not the latest even thinner one.
26 November 2012, 01:58 PM
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with floor standers like that I'm surprised you went with such a small centre speaker (there is no replacement for displacement!)
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The Monitor Audio RX8's handle my 2 channel sound system only via my Cyrus & Streaming system.
Brilliant, time I swopped them around then, thanks.
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I can VERY happily confirm that my 1.3 cables bought in 2008 and installed in the wall process 3D just fine. 
My Pioneer Av amp however, does not.
My Pioneer Av amp however, does not.
26 November 2012, 11:12 PM
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I am researching that as we type mate. All but my Apple TV can be connected to the AV amp optically so that may be a good option. Just need to check that optical carries true hd ok as something tells me it doesn't have the bandwidth.
04 December 2012, 11:34 AM
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I gave up and just bought a better solution instead. LOL
http://www.pioneer.eu/uk/products/22...56-K/page.html
http://www.pioneer.eu/uk/products/22...56-K/page.html
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Hi,
At the moment I run 5.1, but I am adding 2x front highs to do a 7.1 in Dolby Pro Logic IIz format, hopefully tonight if the postman delivers my 2 extra KEF's as promised.
Current layout:
I shall also be changing those vertical blinds tonight as they let far too much light in and cause 3D images to flicker as the Panny I use has active shutters.
At the moment I run 5.1, but I am adding 2x front highs to do a 7.1 in Dolby Pro Logic IIz format, hopefully tonight if the postman delivers my 2 extra KEF's as promised.
Current layout:
I shall also be changing those vertical blinds tonight as they let far too much light in and cause 3D images to flicker as the Panny I use has active shutters.
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The whole room is only 3.5m long mate... My seat is at around 2.9m unless watching a movie then we pull it up to maximise viewing and surround field to about 1.6m
I couldn't easily sit much too far away if I tried. LOL
You are aware that if you sit closer than the recommended minimum distance that the image actually looks far worse aren't you?
I couldn't easily sit much too far away if I tried. LOL
You are aware that if you sit closer than the recommended minimum distance that the image actually looks far worse aren't you?
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