TelBoy

Anyone else watching this?

In principle, i think the programme's great, although i'd like more detail about the techniques they use. Last night's Porsche looked pretty good and the E-Type the week before also came out looking great.

But why the Bernie and Mario soap opera? Just don't get it. Irritating as hell. Slammed doors, shouting and general hamming it up for the cameras. Why???

JDM_Stig

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totally agree, but its the reality TV tension isnt it,
But at the speed they throw them together Id have them checked over by a expert.

alphaj12

I watched the first one last night on 5 on demand, the lead in took too long (20 mins before they got the car)

Seemed a pretty decent job but most of the work went unseen as far as I could tell, as mentioned above too much time spent on the drama rather than the work.

Anyone else noticed its made by the same people who made The Garage, remember Jock in Spain. Same voice over and dodgy computer graphics to explain things.

stilover

Got about 30mins into the E-Type programme. Switched it off. Total Sh!te !!

Big-G

Irritating as ****.
I was in the motor trade for over 25 years and could not believe the crap being spouted.
Continuity was poor, windscreen removed then next shot of working on the car it was back in place.
Why oh why do this type of programme keep showing repeated snapshots of the work done, I guess that it's made for the US market as well, it's very similar to American Chopper series.

As for the evaluation, did the 'expert' even check under the car for welded botch-ups or power-train leaks etc.

Load of tosh.

legacy_gtb

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Agree! I watched most of the e type one and as someone who used to work with classics it made my blood boil! that big bald ****** is a complete bell end!

As an example, why the **** would you buy an origionally white e type and paint it red, its almost the first rule with classics that the closer you can get it to how it was when it rolled off the production line the better!

And that feckin awful sunroof?????

obviously has VERY little knowledge and skill, so how the **** did he get into a position where his opinions get aired on TV?????

It gives people who work in the classic car game a really bad name, the sooner its off the tv the better!

TelBoy

Exactly my thoughts regarding the E-Type colour, what was wrong with white?


A question for you guys though, they seem to spend on average about £8k getting the cars overhauled. Is that in your opinion a fair estimate, or would it be more than that in the commercial world? £8k seems way too cheap to me?

joey_turbo

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Bernie, the annoying bald one, was equally as annoying when he was on a program on Discovery called Chop Shop. They specialised in making one off motors, that always looked rubbish. He had another on screen, love hate relationship with Lepu. Shouting, swearing, crying etc. It is annoying, as obviously us petrol heads want to see more car based stuff. But its all about ratings I suppose.

f1_fan

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In terms of the E-Type I think they are in dream land with those sort of costs. It makes me laugh how little bodywork seems to need doing on any programme involving renovating an E-Type with the exception of 'A car is reborn' and if you have sene that you will know how much work is usually required to bring one of these back from the dead.

I wold budget £15K minimum for anything other than a rot free example and if you can find one of those for £10K let me know

legacy_gtb

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I never worked on anything where corner cutting was required, they obviously buy cheap, do up on a budget, then sell cheap (and the cars a crock of ****e as a result) ..... where i used to work, if the customer wanted corners cut to save cash, it would mean us putting our name to substandard work and therefore didnt touch it!

But to answer your question, £8k wouldnt go very far at all when doing work on an e type! Cant comment on the 911 as i didnt watch it so have no idea what state it was in to start with, but as an example, an engine rebuild with a few new parts required by someone worthy of doing the work could gobble up £8k on its own!

I know of people that have spent near on 6 figures doing up e types and s types, so the ****e these guys are getting envolved in isnt even in the same league!

As for the tv content, the bit that made me cringe was the bit where they drive the car in, and all the staff have to stand around it pointing and laughing in a very fake mtv pimp my ride kind of way ..... if i worked there, id be collecting my P45 and hightailing it!

TelBoy

You'd have cringed last night too. The Porsche engine overhaul consisted of scraping away carbon deposits from the distributor cap. And i'm not joking.

legacy_gtb

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Im not suprised this goes on! We had to fix mistakes made by other garages as often as mistakes made by over ambitious amatures alike. The latter is understandable and forgivable, but some of the massive bills we saw from apparently reputable garages for complete bodges which didnt even solve the problem anyway... some of them were shocking!

What does suprise me is that one of these pikey backstreet bodge shops gets an hour of tv airtime a week .... how is that possible?

GC8

The car was an absolute shed. A bitsa of the worst sort, complete with a LHD to RHD conversion (and people not familiar with whats involvedwould shudder if they knew, and never drive one).


Simon

douglasb

I haven't watched last night's one yet but did see the E-Type one last week. As others have said, the double act bit was annoying. What also annoyed me though was the supposed "facts" they gave out about the E-Type. "The E-Type is the most aerodynamic car ever made". Is it cobblers! It has a Cd of around .47 if I remember so nowhere near the typical .30 of cars today. The commentary was riddled with other inaccuracies which spoiled things a bit.

As for the £8K budget, I reckon that this would only cover new parts. I don't think they costed their labour.

Neanderthal

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I've got them recorded on the Sky planner, was hoping for another 'Wheeler Dealer' type programme. Guess not judging by everyone's comments

ScoobyDriverWannabe

I noticed one advertised on Discovery where they are breaking cars down and selling the parts.

The 2 shown in the advert were Scoobs. Might be of interest to some of you lot.

corradoboy

The fat bald tw@t should have been wearing a dress, he was like a petulant spoilt 9yo girl. Had to turn it off !

Butty

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Who in their right mind would enter a comp. to win that car after seeing how they handled the overhaul.
I bet it lasts as long as the trip back home.

jameswrx

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I was reading people moaning about the first episode and thinking at least it's something automotive to watch! Then I caught the last 5 minutes of the Porsche one... My word, what a pile of tripe. And as for the £22,000 valuation on the 911, knock £20k off for 'that' bumper!

magictree

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Think id rather watch wheeler dealer repeats on youtube anyday rather the reality tv type rubbish it just ruins an otherwise interesting subject.

zip106

That poor Porsche looked awful.

If you're going to 'restore' one at least put the correct bumpers on, and don't put a spoiler on that never came with that particular model.

I also think the engine was wrong.

Overall, just another light entertainment motoring show.

The 'A 4x4 is Born' resto programme on Discovery Channel was probably the best that's ever been.
At least Mark Evans was doing it for the love of doing it and wasn't a mockney wide boy...

skoobidude

New Wheeler Dealer series started recently. It's on every Tuesday at 9pm on Discovery. I love the formula of this programme as the banter is light hearted.. Yes I know the labour is free but Ed is one talented guy, and I appreciate that they don't show everything on each episode, but the detail is spot on.
Definately my current fave car programme on TV.

There's also a new series on National Geographic called Supercars which looks good. Unfortunately I don't have that channel

Nick

JDM_Stig

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No one has mentioned how the expert valuers trousers matched the car lol

BOB.T

Utter, utter dog turd! A broken wire, inside an ECU, on a 70s car?!

Big-G

Ah, yes, but it was done in a long drawn out factual presentation to make you think that it was some unknown trade secret being released.
It made me want to run outside and do it to my old Aerodeck to release a massive amount of horsepower.

Big-G

Just rememembered too, he got the firing order wrong, he quoted 1-5-3-6-2-4 which is correct for most straight sixes, as far as I know the flat 6 firing order was 1-6-2-4-3-5.
It was on a sticker in the engine bay.

Also, the rotor arm rotates at half the engine revs.

Neanderthal

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Watched the first one, thought ok, perhaps after this 'scene/relationship setting' episode it'll settle down, but no, the 2nd episode was worse.
Won't be watching anymore. Utter rubbish.

joey_turbo

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Nest week, not sure on day, on National Geographic, Thereis a car program called Strippers starting. Has a Jap performance Type R featured, and they strip another Type R as well as a Newage STi, to sell the parts.
Probably been mentioned on scoobynet already, but another heads up wont hurt.

joz8968

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Post #16

But yeah, saw the trailer (pardon the pun) for it the other night. The Type R looked like it was a drift car from the footage.

joey_turbo

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Damn! I've got to go to spec savers