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Old 20 September 2012, 10:02 PM
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Default So how will the next election go?

A long way off yet but what do you think will happen?

Lib dems are buggered, if the Tories couldn't win a majority the last time I can't see them winning one after all the austerity measures. So is the most likely outcome an outright Labour majority?
Old 20 September 2012, 10:20 PM
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Not likely, not with the wrong Milliband in charge. What a monumental ****-up that was.
Old 20 September 2012, 10:26 PM
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we need to cull parliament not badgers at the moment
Old 20 September 2012, 10:27 PM
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It'll be some ***, you can be sure of it

Unless Vince is at the helm
Old 20 September 2012, 10:31 PM
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Tory/UKIP coalition


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Old 20 September 2012, 11:27 PM
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Tim Farron in Charge of the lib dems with a lib dem / Labour coalition in govt........

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Boris for PM
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I've decided to give up voting, they are all as bad as each other behind what ever colour they pin on.
It makes no difference, they just find different ways to shaft you.
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Originally Posted by Jamescsti
I've decided to give up voting, they are all as bad as each other behind what ever colour they pin on.
It makes no difference, they just find different ways to shaft you.
That I believe is the main problem - everyone just feels shafted by which ever party is in at the moment and 99% of them are just in Politics to line their own pockets.

Richard
Old 21 September 2012, 08:52 AM
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Lib Dems will be blown out the water. At the moment the polls suggest a Labour win. I can only hope this is the case as a Tory majority would be a disaster for the country. They are right wing enough as it is , and thats with some small concessions to the Lib Dems, left to their own devices they would be to the right of Thatcher.

UKIP might get a seat..maybe, but they are nothing more than a pressure group.
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Narrow Labour win IMO despite Milliband.

The Tories will lose not because of the austerity measures, but because they haven't delivered on any other single major policy in their manifesto (much to the dismay of most of the NSR massive )and they shafted the Lib Dems who were too power hungry and stupid to realise it was happening.
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Originally Posted by PeteBrant
Lib Dems will be blown out the water. At the moment the polls suggest a Labour win. I can only hope this is the case as a Tory majority would be a disaster for the country. They are right wing enough as it is , and thats with some small concessions to the Lib Dems, left to their own devices they would be to the right of Thatcher.

UKIP might get a seat..maybe, but they are nothing more than a pressure group.
In what areas do you feel they would be to the right of Thatcher?
Old 21 September 2012, 09:18 AM
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Pre-election real or engineered mini economic boom will get a tory majority.
Old 21 September 2012, 09:25 AM
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Originally Posted by GlesgaKiss
In what areas do you feel they would be to the right of Thatcher?
Privatisation of the NHS (Thatcher just let it rot, but never dared to actually get rid of it) This is already happening.

Demonisation and cutback for anyone out of work in a shrinking economy - Thatcher shifted millions onto income support to get the jobless figure down, but still provide benefit. This Government is seeking to get everyone out of work on to Jobseekers, which they can cut back, in an economy where there are fewer and fewer jobs.

Education system - Thatcher brought in GCSEs to replace O-Levels and CSEs. Now Gove is reverting that change and going back to the idiotic "big single exam" system.
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Originally Posted by PeteBrant
Lib Dems will be blown out the water. At the moment the polls suggest a Labour win. I can only hope this is the case as a Tory majority would be a disaster for the country. They are right wing enough as it is , and thats with some small concessions to the Lib Dems, left to their own devices they would be to the right of Thatcher.

UKIP might get a seat..maybe, but they are nothing more than a pressure group.
Hi Pete

I really don't think Labour will win the next election. They have an unelectable leader, and I believe there is a massive trust problem to overcome.

Cameron is still liked and respected by many people. I don't believe they can afford to lurch to the right, and therefore will not.

If Obama can get re-elected (which looks highly likely) then so can Cameron. Let's not forget the huge challenges he has had to face.
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If Tories get boundary change thing through - what happened to that? - that will give them a big advantage. If Scotland says cheerio then Tories are in for life

Clegg has to go. David Laws?

Be good if UKIP could get a high profile, Boris type, leader.

Milliband. Oh dear. 'Nuff said.

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Old 21 September 2012, 10:19 AM
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Originally Posted by David Lock
If Tories get boundary change thing through - what happened to that? -
It got kicked into the long grass when Clegg said he and his party would vote against it as revenge for the Tories going back on thier word on the Lords reform bill.
Old 21 September 2012, 10:57 AM
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I think the interesting thing will be if Cameron is still leader by the time of the election. For a lot of the reasons just stated, its conceivable the Tory party will ditch him, maybe for Boris, maybe for David Davis (who came second to Cameron in the last leadership race).

If they do do that, then I think the Tories will get a majority, if not, then I can see more small parties/independents becoming MPs with effectively another coalition. Can't see Labour getting a majority, its too close to their last Government which went pretty badly for them.
Old 21 September 2012, 10:59 AM
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I really would be suprised if there was anything above 25% of the population voting.

As has been said, Labour have an un-electable leader, the LibDems have killed themselves off as any sort of worthwhile vote due to their chasing of power at any cost
And the Tories have alienated their core vote

Plus every policitian does come across as a money grabbing self centred s**t
Old 21 September 2012, 11:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Bonehead
I really would be suprised if there was anything above 25% of the population voting.

As has been said, Labour have an un-electable leader, the LibDems have killed themselves off as any sort of worthwhile vote due to their chasing of power at any cost
And the Tories have alienated their core vote

Plus every policitian does come across as a money grabbing self centred s**t

Yup. How can we have a democracy if

a) a minority of voters dictate to everyone else who should be running the country
b) the choices available is like choosing between skimmed or semi skimmed; it'll make f**k all difference....

....Things have to get worse before they can get better. Quite a number of the public don't seem to grasp that fact.
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Originally Posted by ALi-B
Yup. How can we have a democracy if

a) a minority of voters dictate to everyone else who should be running the country
b) the choices available is like choosing between skimmed or semi skimmed; it'll make f**k all difference....

....Things have to get worse before they can get better. Quite a number of the public don't seem to grasp that fact.
Yup!
Old 21 September 2012, 01:03 PM
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i see the Tory treasurer (Lord Fink) has been lobying to get our Tax regime more inline with the worlds Tax Havens - as a panacea to our economic woes

well if thats the answer to the nations problems -- we have interesting times ahead
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Originally Posted by hodgy0_2
i see the Tory treasurer (Lord Fink) has been lobying to get our Tax regime more inline with the worlds Tax Havens - as a panacea to our economic woes

well if thats the answer to the nations problems -- we have interesting times ahead
Yeah but think of all those Syrian dollars and Mexican drug money we'll get our hands on

And we might even get some Tax Haven sunny weather?

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Originally Posted by David Lock
Yeah but think of all those Syrian dollars and Mexican drug money we'll get our hands on

And we might even get some Tax Haven sunny weather?

dl
oh personally for me – great

for the rest of the country – mmm not so sure
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Originally Posted by warrenm2
I think the interesting thing will be if Cameron is still leader by the time of the election. For a lot of the reasons just stated, its conceivable the Tory party will ditch him, maybe for Boris, maybe for David Davis (who came second to Cameron in the last leadership race).

If they do do that, then I think the Tories will get a majority, if not, then I can see more small parties/independents becoming MPs with effectively another coalition. Can't see Labour getting a majority, its too close to their last Government which went pretty badly for them.

A lurch to the right would almost certainly cost them he election.

David Davis..... OMG.
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Originally Posted by Martin2005
A lurch to the right would almost certainly cost them he election.

David Davis..... OMG.
what's is wrong with david davies (other than he used to be a car salesman)
Old 21 September 2012, 04:27 PM
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How will the next election go.

Same as usual,load of b0ll0ocks being spouted out how you should vote for Lab for X reasons,or Con for X reasons,false smiles and broken promises from both sides.
We are for the people,we are for British workers,we understand the ordinary working man/woman in the street,we're are in this together repeated several times in a speech,Con blaming Lab,Lab blaming Con,etc etc etc.I think that about sums it up.

I'm voting UKIP,did last time and will do so this time,lets face it,years and years of Labour and Conservatives,people go out and vote for the same two every election,and expecting some new big change to happen,that the country and peoples lives will become better.Only months a year later for those same voters are contacting radio shows,and saying how they feel let down by the party they voted for,they never delivered,more broken promises.And come the next election,those same people will vote for the same lot that let them down last time,its like kicking yourself in the *** every election,fingers crossed this time eh ...
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Originally Posted by hodgy0_2
what's is wrong with david davies (other than he used to be a car salesman)
He is only likely to appeal to Tories and therefore is capable of winning an election
Old 21 September 2012, 05:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Martin2005
He is only likely to appeal to Tories and therefore is capable of winning an election
mmmm good point

i made the car salesman bit up btw

don't believe everything you read on the web!!
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Originally Posted by john banks
Pre-election real or engineered mini economic boom will get a tory majority.
Funny, in the back of my mind I thought the same. Figures (real or fiddled) will appear in the run up to the election that show the economy may well be recovering ie gdp up, employment up and the UK fave of house price inflation.

This will be coupled with some other populist right wing stuff like tough attitudes to immigration and crime. Grayling could make a.huge potential impact here.

Btw, I'm not sure why people fear a lurch to the right. Imho it's what this country needs, a proper right wing government to try and undo the damage Labour did to the country over the previous decade. ie unchecked immigration, a culture of encouraging welfare dependance etc.


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