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Old Nov 24, 2011 | 10:30 AM
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http://uk.news.yahoo.com/comment/tal...133032440.html

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Old Nov 24, 2011 | 10:42 AM
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cant stand any politician tbh

apart from the few that tend to be lower down and genuine.
the rest just talk the talk, and get wealthy in the process - come up with sh*t ideas, and impose them on us.

the fact that they only really show any concern in run up to elections says it all really.
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Old Nov 24, 2011 | 11:16 AM
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Yep, prime minister's questions - a juvenile pantomime for the mornic politicians and the even more moronic who think it actually means anything.

Cameron and Osborne are scoring the biggest own goals at the moment by still thinking that rising petrol prices are a good thing and have no effect on the economy or how about the fact they blame the UK economy's flatlining on the Euro crisis despite the fact it started a full 12 months before the Euro crisis reach critical levels!

Still let's all keep bashing the party no longer in power or even remotely significant in UK politics right now as it makes us all feel soooo much better!
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Old Nov 24, 2011 | 11:56 AM
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I think this sums up the choices we have quite well!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r23sMvXqjdY
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Old Nov 24, 2011 | 12:27 PM
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Originally Posted by f1_fan
Yep, prime minister's questions - a juvenile pantomime for the mornic politicians and the even more moronic who think it actually means anything.

Cameron and Osborne are scoring the biggest own goals at the moment by still thinking that rising petrol prices are a good thing
Of course it is: for the government, as every time fuel rises, so does the VAT take on it
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Old Nov 24, 2011 | 12:51 PM
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Of course it is: for the government, as every time fuel rises, so does the VAT take on it
Except we are using 15% less petrol than three years ago.... not that I would expect a **** of Osborne's economic acumen to be able to work out why that means he is getting less tax revenue from it.
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Old Nov 24, 2011 | 01:24 PM
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Originally Posted by f1_fan
Yep, prime minister's questions - a juvenile pantomime for the mornic politicians and the even more moronic who think it actually means anything.

Cameron and Osborne are scoring the biggest own goals at the moment by still thinking that rising petrol prices are a good thing and have no effect on the economy or how about the fact they blame the UK economy's flatlining on the Euro crisis despite the fact it started a full 12 months before the Euro crisis reach critical levels!

Still let's all keep bashing the party no longer in power or even remotely significant in UK politics right now as it makes us all feel soooo much better!
Always a winner on Snet - someone will be along any minute.

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Of course it is: for the government, as every time fuel rises, so does the VAT take on it


Originally Posted by f1_fan
Except we are using 15% less petrol than three years ago.... not that I would expect a **** of Osborne's economic acumen to be able to work out why that means he is getting less tax revenue from it.
And we're off! Genius. In all honestly, f1, your capacity for spin supersedes anything PMQs throws up. Miliband's a spastic.
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Old Nov 24, 2011 | 01:35 PM
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And we're off! Genius. In all honestly, f1, your capacity for spin supersedes anything PMQs throws up. Miliband's a spastic.
Another one that can't do basic mathematics.

No spin, just facts

2008 11.2bn litres sold so at 53p duty/17.5% VAT would have netted 7.90bn for the treasury

2011 9.5bn litres sold so at 58p duty/20%VAT nets 7.41bn for the treasury.

Last time I looked 7.41bn was quite a bit less than 7.9bn.

Still, you know better
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Old Nov 24, 2011 | 01:42 PM
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Originally Posted by f1_fan
Another one that can't do basic mathematics.

No spin, just facts

2008 11.2bn litres sold so at 53p duty/17.5% VAT would have netted 7.90bn for the treasury

2011 9.5bn litres sold so at 58p duty/20%VAT nets 7.41bn for the treasury.

Last time I looked 7.41bn was quite a bit less than 7.9bn.

Still, you know better
Genius. Miliband, take note: This is how to do politics.
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Old Nov 24, 2011 | 01:45 PM
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Originally Posted by JTaylor
Genius. Miliband, take note: This is how to do politics.
Not genius, just primary school maths which neither you nor Osborne probably knows how to do. Stick to your favourite subject as you are clearly out of your depth when it comes to multiplying two numbers together

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But surely, this is what happens when you try and tax something out of existence, then spend the tax on other stuff.

You are left in a position of saying, on the one hand, that you want people to do less driving, smoking or alcohol, then on the other, tacitly allowing it to continue because you need the tax.

Lying Labour invented THAT.

Isn't it true that if EVERYONE stopped driving, drinking and smoking tomorrow, they'd have to raise the income tax to about 80p in the £?
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Old Nov 24, 2011 | 07:17 PM
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Originally Posted by f1_fan
Another one that can't do basic mathematics.

No spin, just facts

2008 11.2bn litres sold so at 53p duty/17.5% VAT would have netted 7.90bn for the treasury

2011 9.5bn litres sold so at 58p duty/20%VAT nets 7.41bn for the treasury.

Last time I looked 7.41bn was quite a bit less than 7.9bn.

Still, you know better
Does this mean there is less cars on the road?


I hope so.
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Old Nov 24, 2011 | 09:19 PM
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Hopefuly they'll tax fuel even higher to get more poor people off the road.

Well done tories!
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Old Nov 24, 2011 | 10:09 PM
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Imagine, an empty M6!


There was a time I could blast up there at 3:00am and encounter zero traffic except maybe just see the odd truck or two.

Now its nothing but a long congregation of trucks 24/7 all playing dual in lanes 1 and 2.

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Old Nov 25, 2011 | 03:42 PM
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Is there anyone at all who could genuinely feel any kind of respect for or have any faith in him?

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Old Nov 25, 2011 | 04:11 PM
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Originally Posted by alcazar
But surely, this is what happens when you try and tax something out of existence, then spend the tax on other stuff.

You are left in a position of saying, on the one hand, that you want people to do less driving, smoking or alcohol, then on the other, tacitly allowing it to continue because you need the tax.

Lying Labour invented THAT.

Isn't it true that if EVERYONE stopped driving, drinking and smoking tomorrow, they'd have to raise the income tax to about 80p in the £?
thats just what they say, its not what they actually want you to do atall.

theyd be totally fcked without these incomes.

its called corruption/lies and bull sh*t
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