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Old 29 August 2011, 06:50 PM
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Default Lockerbie bomber Abdelbaset Ali al-Megrahi close to death

Again.

Didn't do bad considering he only had 3 months to go about 2 years ago.

Good riddance!
Old 29 August 2011, 06:51 PM
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Well good riddance... if he was guilty. I've got a little theory about his release, and it's nothing to do with oil...
Old 29 August 2011, 06:52 PM
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Hope he enjoys his time in hell
Old 29 August 2011, 06:52 PM
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Go on Gles, I'm all ears
Old 29 August 2011, 07:01 PM
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The new regime could't let him live with all the hassle of sending him back to Scotland.......easier for him to join the ranks of collateral damage.

Like the new regime will try and hand over the killer of PC Yvonne Fletcher..

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Old 29 August 2011, 07:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Midlife......
The new regime could't let him live with all the hassle of sending him back to Scotland.......easier for him to join the ranks of collateral damage.

Like the new regime will try and hand over the killer of PC Yvonne Fletcher..

Shaun
i am not saying you're wrong shaun, but jaysus man, conspiracy theory or what.
Old 29 August 2011, 07:27 PM
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it my take a while but he will be proved innocent in time

no one who has been involved in the case, from his scottish prison guards to most of the scottish lawyers used in the case have any doubt he is 100% innocent
Old 29 August 2011, 07:45 PM
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Not a conspiracy theorist........ just a plain cynic LOL

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Old 29 August 2011, 07:51 PM
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Originally Posted by GlesgaKiss
Well good riddance... if he was guilty. I've got a little theory about his release, and it's nothing to do with oil...
Originally Posted by hodgy0_2
it my take a while but he will be proved innocent in time

no one who has been involved in the case, from his scottish prison guards to most of the scottish lawyers used in the case have any doubt he is 100% innocent
And this is my theory. From all accounts it seems to have been a bit of a kangaroo trial, and that is putting it mildly. So I reckon that he was released in the hope that he would then be, to a certain extent, forgotten about. If he had died in a Scottish jail, it would be there glaring everyone in the face, and I think there would be strong calls for a proper inquiry. If he was proved innocent, it wouldn't just be a massive political embarrassment, it could also have legal consequences for the people involved. Obviously these spineless c*nts want to avoid that at all costs.

That's what I think. Possibly that combined with other political factors resulted in his release.
Old 29 August 2011, 08:27 PM
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it was an (unstated) condition of his release that he drop his second appeal -- which most observers are convinced would have seen his conviction overturned and him walk away free

even the UN observers at his original trial saw it as the kangaroo court it was

so i suspect your theory is pretty close to the actualité
Old 29 August 2011, 08:53 PM
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very few up here in scotland think hes guilty - crucifying a random guy makes us no better than the ones who planted it ( and never forget somebody somewhere DID plant it)
Old 29 August 2011, 08:57 PM
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For all the likelihood of AaM actually being innocent of the Lockerbie bombing, it's pretty safe bet that as a high-ranking officer in the Libyan security service, he will have got his hands equally dirty in some way or other at some point in his career.
Old 29 August 2011, 09:07 PM
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Originally Posted by markjmd
it's pretty safe bet that as a high-ranking officer in the Libyan security service,
what is the evidence for this?

all I have read is that he was head of security for Tripoli Airport - hardly a Libyian 007

and it is the same smear tactics that said that the Guildford 4 or Birmingham 6 "were guilty of something" -- apart from being Irish Catholics off course
Old 29 August 2011, 11:08 PM
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I've often heard it said that "He was innocent". What's the basis of this?

I don't mean "Was it a kangaroo court", I mean, "What was the evidence heard at court"?
Old 30 August 2011, 09:02 AM
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He wants the UK taxpayer to fund his £3000 / month medication bill.

Let me consider that for a moment.....














Denied.
Old 30 August 2011, 09:11 AM
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The father of one of the Lockerbie victims, a doctor as it happens, was interviewed on TV over the weekend.
He said that, having been so close to the disaster, and having listened to much of the evidence from both sides, he was absolutely convinced that AaM was innocent.
An interesting point of view from one with every reason to wish this guy dead.
Old 30 August 2011, 09:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Chip
Again.

Didn't do bad considering he only had 3 months to go about 2 years ago.

Good riddance!
good the sh**t head
Old 30 August 2011, 09:16 AM
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Originally Posted by andythejock01wrx
I've often heard it said that "He was innocent". What's the basis of this?

I don't mean "Was it a kangaroo court", I mean, "What was the evidence heard at court"?
in a word none

the main evidence was identification evidence produced by man paid 2 million dollars by the US govt

(the above was just one of the grounds on which the case was referred back to the appeal court)


the UN observer monitoring the trial said the guilty verdict incomprehensible

and if you think yo need evidence to convict someone, just look at the evidence used to convict Barry George, which was, in the cold light of the appeal court, zero

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Old 30 August 2011, 11:30 AM
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It is certainly worth remembering that his trial was very badly and incompetently conducted and he was about to appeal against conviction due to new evidence.

I understand that he was offered release if he dropped the appeal.

Les
Old 30 August 2011, 11:45 AM
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when politicians and secret service agencies get involved in justice - the results are rarely satisfactory
Old 30 August 2011, 04:25 PM
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Originally Posted by hodgy0_2

the main evidence was identification evidence produced by man paid 2 million dollars by the US govt


And related to a fleeting meeting seven years earlier when he served the bomber in his shop. Amongst all his other customers. And apparently remembered this.


The more knowledgeable experts always said that the attack was carried out by the Syrians, and paid for by the Iranians, in revenge for the shooting down of Air Iran flight 655 by the USS Vincennes. But at that time the Syrians were supplying intelligence to the Americans (although the US was fully aware that they were the biggest state sponsor of terrorism), whilst the Libyans were then Public Enemy Number One. So guess who get fitted up.


M
Old 30 August 2011, 09:45 PM
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Download "Lockerbie - Private Eye's special report into the Lockerbie disaster (Originally published in 2001)" from DIGITAL DOWNLOADS for some interesting (and ten year's ago) reading!

mb
Old 31 August 2011, 01:01 PM
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Way I see it, sod him, whether he did it or not he is knackered, he knows whether he did or not, even if he did he may have been coerced into it, his family threatened etc, I am sure that Gadafi was the one who authorised Lockerbie and it is his head I want to see detached from his shoulders and used as a football.

Really want to see them get the ******* and Mugabe as well.
Old 31 August 2011, 01:58 PM
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Nice to see a balanced thread on this. As has been said, many in Scotland always felt he was innocent of this attrocity, which is why he Scottish government have a lot of support here for releasing him, and not bending over and taking it up the **** from America the way Blair and Brown (and presumably Cameron too) have done.
Old 31 August 2011, 02:30 PM
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What can we expect from the weak, self serving politicians we are stuck with these days whose major ambition is to cozy up to other world leaders at our expense!

Les
Old 31 August 2011, 09:39 PM
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If anyone wants to know why some think/believe that Al-Megrahi could be/is innocent, pre-order Dr. Jim Swire's book: http://www.lockerbietruth.com/ForFloraDetails.html

I did go and see Benson's play (inspired by Swire's campaign) in search of the truth. It was thought provoking.
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