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Old Jun 29, 2011 | 10:55 AM
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So will we actually notice they are on strike if they do this when they are working??

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...-Heathrow.html

I hope they are all back at work when I land at LHR on friday evening.
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Old Jun 29, 2011 | 11:28 AM
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Those poor Somalians sound like they need some compo.
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Old Jun 29, 2011 | 12:14 PM
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Those poor Somalians sound like they need some compo.
At the very least housing and full benefits and all the NHS has to offer + schools for the 37 kids in each family who do not speak a word of Eeeeengleeeesssshhh to make them feel at home!
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Old Jun 29, 2011 | 12:53 PM
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At the very least housing and full benefits and all the NHS has to offer + schools for the 37 kids in each family who do not speak a word of Eeeeengleeeesssshhh to make them feel at home!

Indeed. there is a severe shortage of Somalian criminals on the streets of London and as a minority they seem ethnically underrepresented.
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Old Jun 29, 2011 | 01:02 PM
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burglary rates in london are up this year!
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Old Jun 29, 2011 | 01:02 PM
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to be fair the uk ba are in my opinion
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a bunch of useless tw*ts.
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Old Jun 29, 2011 | 01:07 PM
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Originally Posted by danos14
to be fair the uk ba are in my opinion
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a bunch of useless tw*ts.

Would you believe the UKBA holds an awards ceremony each year, i know this because i helped pitch for the work when i worked in events. Budget in 2008/9 was c.100K and to be held and the Natural History Museum in London.

Money better spent enforcing our borders methinks...
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Old Jun 29, 2011 | 01:26 PM
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I don't think I've seen one in the Customs Hall for about 6 years!!
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Old Jun 29, 2011 | 08:14 PM
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camoscoobys the man to ask
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Old Jun 29, 2011 | 08:37 PM
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Originally Posted by The Zohan
Would you believe the UKBA holds an awards ceremony each year, i know this because i helped pitch for the work when i worked in events. Budget in 2008/9 was c.100K and to be held and the Natural History Museum in London.

Money better spent enforcing our borders methinks...



makes my blood boil but kind of doesnt surprise me... I'll keep my tax money this year and we can cancell this years ceremony.....
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Old Jun 29, 2011 | 09:39 PM
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Old Jun 30, 2011 | 07:24 AM
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The b o r d e r a g e n c y ...... Remind me what they do again? Is it something to so with herbaceous perennials

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Old Jun 30, 2011 | 08:42 AM
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Im not sure they could get legal aid now

this would hamper their pleading with European court human 'rights'


Somebody the girlfriend shared with ( no choice ) was into shoplifting/obtaining cards in other people names ( all learnt in S.A. ) - hasnt been deported back to zim at the last count
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Old Jun 30, 2011 | 10:12 AM
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My new passport can go through the scanner. It's awesome!

I've got two valid passports actually but the other one is analogue.
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Old Jun 30, 2011 | 10:29 AM
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I could entertain this thread by compiling a detailed post about the UKBA and the work I do but to be honest, you all clearly know more than I do so why bother?

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Old Jun 30, 2011 | 10:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Camoscooby
I could entertain this thread by compiling a detailed post about the UKBA and the work I do but to be honest, you all clearly know more than I do so why bother?

oh go on tell us how hard it is to stand around at Dover with your arms folded waving cars through, or how hard it is sitting at an airport scanning passports as slowely as humany possible through a reader and looking suspiciouly at the owner. I am sure it would be a riveting read
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Old Jun 30, 2011 | 10:40 AM
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To be honest the UKBA are much more efficient at processing you through PP control than most 3rd world places.

But there are normally less of them on duty! At Manchester airport late at night you might have 2 or 3 planes worth of people queuing and about 3 officers! LOL.

Thank God for the scannable passports.
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Old Jun 30, 2011 | 10:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Wurzel
So will we actually notice they are on strike if they do this when they are working??

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...-Heathrow.html

I hope they are all back at work when I land at LHR on friday evening.
Very short sighted.

How are you to know that a person like this is (and it does happen) permitted to enter in order to be followed and monitored resulting in more opportunities/intelligence/arrests which would not have been available if they had been refused at the border?

Originally Posted by danos14
to be fair the uk ba are in my opinion
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a bunch of useless tw*ts.
Nice

Originally Posted by hodgy0_2
it's Sean Connery you idiots

Good one
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Old Jun 30, 2011 | 10:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Camoscooby
Very short sighted.

How are you to know that a person like this is (and it does happen) permitted to enter in order to be followed and monitored resulting in more opportunities/intelligence/arrests which would not have been available if they had been refused at the border?
How do we know he is not a Martian?
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Old Jun 30, 2011 | 10:59 AM
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oh go on tell us how hard it is to stand around at Dover with your arms folded waving cars through, or how hard it is sitting at an airport scanning passports as slowely as humany possible through a reader and looking suspiciouly at the owner. I am sure it would be a riveting read
You sir, are an idiot.

You have just included a link in your first post complaining how undesirable people are just permitted to 'walk through' the passport control and now you are complaining that we are 'scanning passports as slowely as humany possible through a reader and looking suspiciouly at the owner.'

Exactly what is it you would like us to do? So I guess its not important to check the owner of the passport is the same person standing in front of you? The computers/scanners are a tool, nothing else and does not make an officers skills/experience and intuition obsolete.

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To be honest the UKBA are much more efficient at processing you through PP control than most 3rd world places.

But there are normally less of them on duty! At Manchester airport late at night you might have 2 or 3 planes worth of people queuing and about 3 officers! LOL.

Thank God for the scannable passports.
As above re: scannable passports

Also, its the government not the UKBA that are responsible for empty desks at passport control
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Old Jun 30, 2011 | 11:01 AM
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Originally Posted by tony de wonderful
How do we know he is not a Martian?


Like this you mean
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Old Jun 30, 2011 | 01:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Camoscooby
You sir, are an idiot.

You have just included a link in your first post complaining how undesirable people are just permitted to 'walk through' the passport control and now you are complaining that we are 'scanning passports as slowely as humany possible through a reader and looking suspiciouly at the owner.'

Exactly what is it you would like us to do? So I guess its not important to check the owner of the passport is the same person standing in front of you? The computers/scanners are a tool, nothing else and does not make an officers skills/experience and intuition obsolete.
The question is not worth answering as you are obviously to thick to understand the answer.

we want you to stop letting banned criminals into the country, you have checked his passport so you know who he is you have stared him in the face so you know who he is, your swanky scanner connected to a database has told you who he is and that he is banned from entering the country so WTF let him in ??
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Originally Posted by Wurzel
The question is not worth answering as you are obviously to thick to understand the answer.

we want you to stop letting banned criminals into the country, you have checked his passport so you know who he is you have stared him in the face so you know who he is, your swanky scanner connected to a database has told you who he is and that he is banned from entering the country so WTF let him in ??
Sorry my bad, you clearly know what you are talking about

I am prohibited from saying too much because of the Secret's Act, however if there was a valid/legal reason this man is banned from entering the country and the officials in question had received confirmation to this effect via 'our swanky scanner', he would have been.

It's the red tape and controversial laws such as the afforementioned Human Rights Act that allow things like that mentioned in this newspaper article to happen. The officers are only acting within the constraints of the law, decreed by our government and blame cannot/should not be attributed to the UKBA.

Stop acting like a plank unless you know what you are talking about.
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I suspect the point being made Camoscooby is, what is the point of the UKBA - what is their role, if the law prevents them from doing what is needed?
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Old Jun 30, 2011 | 04:53 PM
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Heathrow running well today, despite 75% of UK BA staff not showing up for work.

75% overstaffed maybe?
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Originally Posted by ReallyReallyGoodMeat
I suspect the point being made Camoscooby is, what is the point of the UKBA - what is their role, if the law prevents them from doing what is needed?
Exactamondo!
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Old Jun 30, 2011 | 05:13 PM
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Heathrow running well today, despite 75% of UK BA staff not showing up for work.

75% overstaffed maybe?
At what cost though? That is yet to be seen
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Exactamondo!
I was kind of hoping you'd have the answer
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