Is it possible to believe in God and Darwin?
13 June 2011, 02:22 PM
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Is it possible to believe in God and Darwin?
This was aired throughout last week where a 5 people presented their thoughts on whether God and Dawin's theory of evolution could co-exist. Some of the views presented were very "interesting"!
http://www.4thought.tv/topics/browse...od-and-Darwin-
http://www.4thought.tv/topics/browse...od-and-Darwin-
13 June 2011, 03:17 PM
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"Is it possible to believe in God and Darwin?"
Try this:
http://www.multivax.com/last_question.html
I've posted it at least a half dozen times when these kinds of discussions crop-up but, it seems that nobody ever takes the time to read it. I'll try again. Let there be light.
Try this:
http://www.multivax.com/last_question.html
I've posted it at least a half dozen times when these kinds of discussions crop-up but, it seems that nobody ever takes the time to read it. I'll try again. Let there be light.
13 June 2011, 03:34 PM
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I believe in Darwin, as there are plenty of contemporary accounts of him, even some pictures, but as for God.......
So no, it isn't
As for Darwin becoming a Christian, the exact opposite is true. He eventually rejected the bible and died a non-believer.
This did cause him some personal turmoil, it has to be said.
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So no, it isn't
As for Darwin becoming a Christian, the exact opposite is true. He eventually rejected the bible and died a non-believer.
This did cause him some personal turmoil, it has to be said.
Geezer
13 June 2011, 03:40 PM
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I don't believe in either, I believe in the mighty power of Beer. Without it i would never have been created and I'm pretty sure most of you lot wouldn't have been either.
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I believe in Darwin, as there are plenty of contemporary accounts of him, even some pictures, but as for God.......
So no, it isn't
As for Darwin becoming a Christian, the exact opposite is true. He eventually rejected the bible and died a non-believer.
This did cause him some personal turmoil, it has to be said.
Geezer
So no, it isn't
As for Darwin becoming a Christian, the exact opposite is true. He eventually rejected the bible and died a non-believer.
This did cause him some personal turmoil, it has to be said.
Geezer
It's perfectly possible to have faith in God yet apply scientific methods to understand the natural world.
Of course one would not be a religious literalist/fundamentalist....or at least one with intergrity, but the basic meaning and truths of Christianity do not conflict with the scientific method.
13 June 2011, 03:58 PM
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It doesn't mean he rejected Christianity on scientific grounds.
It's perfectly possible to have faith in God yet apply scientific methods to understand the natural world.
Of course one would not be a religious literalist/fundamentalist....or at least one with intergrity, but the basic meaning and truths of Christianity do not conflict with the scientific method.
It's perfectly possible to have faith in God yet apply scientific methods to understand the natural world.
Of course one would not be a religious literalist/fundamentalist....or at least one with intergrity, but the basic meaning and truths of Christianity do not conflict with the scientific method.
His 'fall' from Christianity is well documented, as are the reasons.
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13 June 2011, 04:02 PM
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Darwin did reject the bible on scientific grounds though. He went and studied theology at Cambridge and he intended to follow a ministerial path, but his belief died a death on the Beagle, and not just from observations which led to the theory of evolution, but from geological books he had read during the voyage.
His 'fall' from Christianity is well documented, as are the reasons.
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His 'fall' from Christianity is well documented, as are the reasons.
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whatever!
13 June 2011, 04:38 PM
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13 June 2011, 04:56 PM
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Let's save ourselves a 13 page thread, we've had our religious debate for this year, just go and read
this
Most angles are covered.........
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this
Most angles are covered.........
Geezer
This thread was intended to have a different slant on the discussion bringing in Creationism and Intelligent Design and evolution.
Granted this may be a shorter discussion as I think most of us agree that Creationists are all crackpots!
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Let's save ourselves a 13 page thread, we've had our religious debate for this year, just go and read
this
Most angles are covered.........
Geezer
this
Most angles are covered.........
Geezer
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Most of which covered the definition and differences between amorral and immoral.
This thread was intended to have a different slant on the discussion bringing in Creationism and Intelligent Design and evolution.
Granted this may be a shorter discussion as I think most of us agree that Creationists are all crackpots!
This thread was intended to have a different slant on the discussion bringing in Creationism and Intelligent Design and evolution.
Granted this may be a shorter discussion as I think most of us agree that Creationists are all crackpots!
13 June 2011, 04:58 PM
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"Is it possible to believe in God and Darwin?"
Try this:
http://www.multivax.com/last_question.html
I've posted it at least a half dozen times when these kinds of discussions crop-up but, it seems that nobody ever takes the time to read it. I'll try again. Let there be light.
Try this:
http://www.multivax.com/last_question.html
I've posted it at least a half dozen times when these kinds of discussions crop-up but, it seems that nobody ever takes the time to read it. I'll try again. Let there be light.
One and the same!
13 June 2011, 05:05 PM
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Yep; m-theory and God: same thing, different language.
Eta: as in primum movens. Evolution can then go on to predict (speculate about) God in the future and therefor the past using Asimov's model in the short story. Non-literally (as in non-childlike God concepts) and employing ignosticism, of course one can believe in God and evolution.
Eta: as in primum movens. Evolution can then go on to predict (speculate about) God in the future and therefor the past using Asimov's model in the short story. Non-literally (as in non-childlike God concepts) and employing ignosticism, of course one can believe in God and evolution.
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13 June 2011, 07:55 PM
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Religion, created by man to control man, when fear of the known was not great enough, fear of the unknown was born.
" A god fearing man " attempts to currie favour in the fictional representation of a fictional after life.
But trying to currie favour is forbidden.
So they are all fooked anyway.
i'll take my chances whilst sitting on the fence..
Oh and no.
" A god fearing man " attempts to currie favour in the fictional representation of a fictional after life.
But trying to currie favour is forbidden.
So they are all fooked anyway.
i'll take my chances whilst sitting on the fence..
Oh and no.
Last edited by ditchmyster; 13 June 2011 at 07:58 PM.
