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Old 06 February 2009, 09:12 PM
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My daughter is currently filling out an application form for employment in the N.H.S. she has duely filled the application form and on a seperate monitoring form she has to answere the following questions;
Age
Sex
Race
Religion
Sexuality
Disability.
Please tell me, why is her race, religion or sexuality a reasonable question to ask. I can understand the disability bit but, the rest WTF.
Old 06 February 2009, 09:14 PM
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Originally Posted by greenonedave
My daughter is currently filling out an application form for employment in the N.H.S. she has duely filled the application form and on a seperate monitoring form she has to answere the following questions;
Age
Sex
Race
Religion
Sexuality
Disability.
Please tell me, why is her race, religion or sexuality a reasonable question to ask. I can understand the disability bit but, the rest WTF.
Thats easy,if she's from a different country,the jobs hers
Old 06 February 2009, 09:17 PM
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Because Lying Labour have set them targets of equality: they now HAVE to give som many jobs to each category, regardless as to whether they are the best person fro the job................you know, a bit like female DJ's, female footy commentators etc
Old 06 February 2009, 09:22 PM
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so if she becomes a ethnic lesbian transexual with extremest tendancies,
jobs a good un.
Old 06 February 2009, 09:25 PM
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Check her spelling on the form when she has finished won't you, Dave.
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The question is why? the answer; because.
Old 06 February 2009, 10:28 PM
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Its to make sure everyone is treated the same.
Old 06 February 2009, 10:32 PM
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was thinking of trying to join the police force late last year i looked on humberside police website and it said "no opportunities as of yet but if you are ethnic minority ring this number for an application form "
not joking either it did actually say that

i fancied joining the policeforce at the time aswell
Old 06 February 2009, 10:38 PM
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If she is an ancestrally English, Christian heterosexual and she doesn't get the job then she may have grounds to sue due to being excluded due to her race, religion and sexual preference, because the job is sure to go to an immigrant, Muslim lesbian
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All public sector job applications have this.

But it's an old form because asking about age is a no-no except in special circumstances.

She probably doesn't have to complete if she doesn't want to.

Hope she gets the job btw. d

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Because they want to know which you fart and which way it is blowing
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Originally Posted by greenonedave
so if she becomes a ethnic lesbian transexual with extremest tendancies,
jobs a good un.
Deaf, diseased black Lesbian dwarf with one leg I believe was decided to be the ideal government worker. Ticks so many boxes in one go.

Steve
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Originally Posted by tanyatriangles
Because Lying Labour have set them targets of equality:
Those targets were originally established by the last Tory government. The exact proportions required may have been fiddled with, but the Tories invented the idea.


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Old 07 February 2009, 09:22 AM
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Originally Posted by greenonedave
My daughter is currently filling out an application form for employment in the N.H.S. she has duely filled the application form and on a seperate monitoring form she has to answere the following questions;
Age 18
Sex Frequently
Race London Marathon
Religion Budhist
Sexuality Dual+Animals
Disability. Blind
.

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Originally Posted by greenonedave
My daughter is currently filling out an application form for employment in the N.H.S. she has duely filled the application form and on a seperate monitoring form she has to answere the following questions;
Age
Sex
Race
Religion
Sexuality
Disability.
Please tell me, why is her race, religion or sexuality a reasonable question to ask. I can understand the disability bit but, the rest WTF.
Fascist State??? Oh I'm sorry, that is here!!
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Originally Posted by greenonedave
so if she becomes a ethnic lesbian transexual with extremest tendancies,
jobs a good un.
basically aye, the job is hers!
Old 07 February 2009, 12:31 PM
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Originally Posted by corradoboy
If she is an ancestrally English, Christian heterosexual and she doesn't get the job then she may have grounds to sue due to being excluded due to her race, religion and sexual preference, because the job is sure to go to an immigrant, Muslim lesbian
I'm with you on this - its about time we all club together and use some beer money to pay for a solicitor to try a case like this. Its about time we started playing the same rules that certain minorities do in this country.

I'm a strong believer that a job should go to the person that is most qualified and not just a person that fulfills the latest daft criteria have to employ to look good.

lol if I won the lottery I would use some of the money to fight cause like this !

Richard
Old 07 February 2009, 04:05 PM
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Originally Posted by tanyatriangles
Because Lying Labour have set them targets of equality
It's Diversity not Equality that they are promoting.
Old 07 February 2009, 05:24 PM
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Originally Posted by ScoobyWon't
It's Diversity not Equality that they are promoting.
It`s Sh1te not Diversity that there promoting
Old 07 February 2009, 05:30 PM
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Originally Posted by RA Dunk
It`s Sh1te not Diversity that there promoting
spot on mate.

I think Clarkson had it right; hehe - see here CLARKSON FACTUALLY CORRECT - The Daily Mash

This about sums up the UK we live in today I reckon (except perhaps it should address the government...):
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Originally Posted by rsarjantson
I'm with you on this - its about time we all club together and use some beer money to pay for a solicitor to try a case like this. Its about time we started playing the same rules that certain minorities do in this country.

I'm a strong believer that a job should go to the person that is most qualified and not just a person that fulfills the latest daft criteria have to employ to look good.

lol if I won the lottery I would use some of the money to fight cause like this !

Richard
I personally believe that we should run a system like the USA where companies are forced to employ a native countryman or woman over anybody else for a vacancy.

If I'm honest, I feel that we shouldn't be looking to start "play the game"; but rather, the aim should be to get rid of the mountains of red tape and nonsense that this bunch of morons put in place - then there would be no game to play and common sense might even stand a reasonable chance of prevailing.

You're so right when you say that it should be the most qualified for the job; trouble is as far as the police and this government seem to be concerned, it's the person deemed most politically correct that wins. This has got to stop.

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Originally Posted by Bugeye_Scoob
I personally believe that we should run a system like the USA where companies are forced to employ a native countryman or woman over anybody else for a vacancy.

If I'm honest, I feel that we shouldn't be looking to start "play the game"; but rather, the aim should be to get rid of the mountains of red tape and nonsense that this bunch of morons put in place - then there would be no game to play and common sense might even stand a reasonable chance of prevailing.

You're so right when you say that it should be the most qualified for the job; trouble is as far as the police and this government seem to be concerned, it's the person deemed most politically correct that wins. This has got to stop.
well said!

political correctness and the numptys in Brussels can both kiss my fat hairy ar$e!
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Originally Posted by pimmo2000
Its to make sure everyone is treated the same.
So they should ask NONE of these questions. Then they won't know what sexuality/colour/religion/etc. the applicant is therefore they can't treat the application in any manner other than equally.

Once they know age/sex/race etc. then they start to use these in the vetting process which is, according to them, wrong.
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Originally Posted by Dracoro
So they should ask NONE of these questions. Then they won't know what sexuality/colour/religion/etc. the applicant is therefore they can't treat the application in any manner other than equally.

Once they know age/sex/race etc. then they start to use these in the vetting process which is, according to them, wrong.
thats quite a strong and valid point IMO
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As already mentioned it's about diversity !!! Any NHS serves a diverse community so it's important that their workforce reflects this. I work for the Fire Service and our applications are very similar. It also ensures that there are no barriers to entry for any area of the community. I hope her application is sucessful and that things go well.

Cheers,

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Its because she might be white, hetero and able bodied, cant have that in any government institution.
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Oh you lot are paranoid!

I wouold imagine they are to record exactly what type of people they have employed for natonal statistics.

Maybe.......

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Incidentally, when the info is passed from HR for shortlisting / interview, all of that information (including date of birth) is removed.

We can usually get the age pretty close as it gives dates of exams taken (like GCSE etc) LOL

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As far as im aware it isnt compulsory to give them sort of details about yourself if you do not wish. I know that in most companies you are guarenteed an interview if you have a disability. Even asthma and diabetes qualifies someone as disabled.
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Originally Posted by Geezer
Oh you lot are paranoid!
nope, not paranoid.......................................... ... just realists!



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