Notices
Non Scooby Related Anything Non-Scooby related

Who's buying gold?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 23 January 2009, 04:57 PM
  #1  
JTaylor
Scooby Regular
Thread Starter
 
JTaylor's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Home
Posts: 14,758
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Who's buying gold?

Is it the safest place for our savings?
Old 23 January 2009, 05:00 PM
  #2  
al4x1
Scooby Regular
 
al4x1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Posts: 331
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

until this fiasco reaches the bottom and the institutions get out of gold to pick up bargain shares resulting in a plumeting of gold prices
Old 23 January 2009, 05:23 PM
  #3  
Matteeboy
Scooby Regular
 
Matteeboy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Mars
Posts: 11,470
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

I'd say no.

I'm spending a large chunk of each day trying to look for the best place for our savings. So far I've come up with nowt so holding tight and hoping for the best in the banks it's saved in!
Old 23 January 2009, 05:35 PM
  #4  
Chris L
Scooby Regular
 
Chris L's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2000
Location: MY00,MY01,RX-8, Alfa 147 & Focus ST :-)
Posts: 10,371
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Gold is the foundation of any well diversified portfolio. I am certainly considering it now. There are a number of companies that can help you trade in virtual gold. Bullionvault has a good reputation if you are interested. Between 10 - 20% of the value of your total portfolio is the rough guide for holding gold.
Old 23 January 2009, 06:27 PM
  #5  
yoza
BANNED
 
yoza's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: LIVERPOOL THE CENTRE OF EXCELLENCE
Posts: 8,511
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

More info on prices and how it works.


Gold Prices : Current Gold Price & Charts
Old 23 January 2009, 06:31 PM
  #6  
Borat_Drives_A_Scooby
BANNED
 
Borat_Drives_A_Scooby's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Posts: 1,275
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

I took your advice and went and invested in some myself, i bought 6 boxes.




How long should i keep hold of them for before selling ?
Old 23 January 2009, 06:46 PM
  #7  
yoza
BANNED
 
yoza's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: LIVERPOOL THE CENTRE OF EXCELLENCE
Posts: 8,511
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

You made a mistake, your are to buy your own, not Terry's.
Old 23 January 2009, 08:51 PM
  #8  
Deep Singh
Scooby Regular
 
Deep Singh's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2001
Posts: 5,582
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Lots of websites around regarding gold investing. Be careful though as there are people on them that believe that we wil soon all need gold to even buy bread!

saying that though you must realise that what we call money is just bits of paper, all backed up by trust/faith in a system. That system is, for the first time in my lifetime, falling to pieces. Therefore one should have some money invested in something of value/use ie gold, oil etc
Old 23 January 2009, 10:43 PM
  #9  
Spooky Mulder
Scooby Regular
 
Spooky Mulder's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2000
Location: York
Posts: 1,029
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Gold is looking very toppy now. It has risen a lot and even thought this is likely to be a long recession it is hard to see it rising much higher.

There are a lot of real bargains out there in terms of property and businesses and money is going to start moving soon.
Old 24 January 2009, 08:00 AM
  #10  
borderlinechris
Scooby Regular
iTrader: (5)
 
borderlinechris's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: scotland/england border
Posts: 888
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

MR T pehaps....( i pity the fool, quit you`re gibba gabba, etc)
Old 24 January 2009, 10:11 AM
  #11  
Deep Singh
Scooby Regular
 
Deep Singh's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2001
Posts: 5,582
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Spooky Mulder
Gold is looking very toppy now. It has risen a lot and even thought this is likely to be a long recession it is hard to see it rising much higher.

There are a lot of real bargains out there in terms of property and businesses and money is going to start moving soon.
Err the second part of your statement contradicts the first. Either it will be a lond recession or there are bargains to be had now and money will start moving soon. It can't be both.

Investing inn gold is not so much about making money but preserving wealth at a time when fiat currencies are out of favour
Old 24 January 2009, 10:24 AM
  #12  
mrtheedge2u2
Scooby Regular
 
mrtheedge2u2's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Posts: 3,194
Received 31 Likes on 25 Posts
Default

buying gold is all ok if you have large sums in the bank.... if you do not then it means you are stuffed....

I am off to buy a shot gun
Old 24 January 2009, 11:28 AM
  #13  
kingofturds
Scooby Regular
Support Scoobynet!
iTrader: (1)
 
kingofturds's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Zanzibar
Posts: 17,373
Received 5 Likes on 4 Posts
Default

I'm buying up tins of smart price baked beans, when civilisation breaks down I'll clean up
Old 24 January 2009, 11:50 AM
  #14  
Maz
Scooby Senior
iTrader: (34)
 
Maz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Yorkshire.
Posts: 15,884
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by JTaylor
Is it the safest place for our savings?
In troublesome times like these under the mattress is the best place!
Old 24 January 2009, 12:39 PM
  #15  
vindaloo
Scooby Regular
 
vindaloo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: South Bucks
Posts: 3,213
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Nearly posted on this yesterday but thinking about it got me depressed as well, I haven't done it.

Savings rates on e-savings etc is crap. Whilst there are a couple of good rates out there, there's always restrictions.

Equities are going through a very dodgy phase. Financial sector and natural resources/mining are not doing well.

Gold prices have been climbing for at least the past 2 years. Whilst I won't say they've topped out, the historical trend is that they'll revert back to their normal levels eventually.

Government bonds and gilts may be an interesting area. Governments need to raise money and there's far more interest in these types of investments at the moment.

What I've learned is that timing is everything. And my timing sucks - LOL


2 rules, I s'pose....

Save for when you anticipate needing the dosh. Plan to have access to some of your dosh immediately, then in 3-5 years, then 10 years plus.

Invest in or track bonds as well as shares funds.

Try here... - Fund Prices|UK Funds|Unit Trusts|OEICS|ISAs|ETFs|Offshore Funds|Life and Pension

J.
Old 24 January 2009, 07:22 PM
  #16  
JTaylor
Scooby Regular
Thread Starter
 
JTaylor's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Home
Posts: 14,758
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Thanks for the replies, fellas. The challenge is that it's not just my money but my family's. Since my father and then my grandfather passed away I've pretty much been responsible regarding major financial calls. I'm just a bit nervous about making the wrong decision. At the minute we have nothing in gold, for which I'm kicking myself, but equally I don't want to jump in with say 10% of our assets whilst the price is at $900 an ounce. I'm also very concious that we're in unprecedented times and that there's a chance of a significant change to the global monetary system. I'll e-mail Mystic Meg, I think.
Old 24 January 2009, 09:38 PM
  #17  
john banks
Scooby Regular
 
john banks's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2000
Location: 32 cylinders and many cats
Posts: 18,658
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

Gilts may be in a bubble as well, plus they are denominated in sterling, and the rates may have to go up which will reduce the values.

Gold may be peaky so I wouldn't put everything in it. I've lost out by selling gold and holding cash over the last few months. I think gold will strengthen against GBP, USD and Euro, but I'm not so convinced that I've got lots of it, so I'll probably continue to get hammered on my GBP.
Old 24 January 2009, 11:23 PM
  #18  
Deep Singh
Scooby Regular
 
Deep Singh's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2001
Posts: 5,582
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by JTaylor
Thanks for the replies, fellas. The challenge is that it's not just my money but my family's. Since my father and then my grandfather passed away I've pretty much been responsible regarding major financial calls. I'm just a bit nervous about making the wrong decision. At the minute we have nothing in gold, for which I'm kicking myself, but equally I don't want to jump in with say 10% of our assets whilst the price is at $900 an ounce. I'm also very concious that we're in unprecedented times and that there's a chance of a significant change to the global monetary system. I'll e-mail Mystic Meg, I think.

If you do decide to put 10% of your cash in don't do it in one go. The price of gold like all tradeable assets fluctuates up and down. so if you drip feed it in over a few months then you will take advantage of some of the dips.

Happy investing and good luck
Old 25 January 2009, 03:35 AM
  #19  
Rorschach
Scooby Regular
 
Rorschach's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Posts: 106
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Diversify. As others have said gold constitutes a good foundation for any investment portfolio.

I try to keep 25% in 'real' assets and always have done.
Old 30 January 2009, 10:47 AM
  #20  
JTaylor
Scooby Regular
Thread Starter
 
JTaylor's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Home
Posts: 14,758
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Still creeping up, $920 per ounce now. Think we'll start to dip in.
Old 30 January 2009, 11:17 AM
  #21  
al4x1
Scooby Regular
 
al4x1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Posts: 331
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

5 years ago it was below $400, its so high at the moment as its seen as a safe bet but when this malarky ends and lots hits the market it will fall fast as people look to invest elsewhere. If its not just your money I'd look at something you're not buying near its peak as its most likely direction is downwards. I'd just spread it round savings accounts as you know you won't loose money. Yes its value in real terms may be reduced but you'll still have your initial holding.
Old 30 January 2009, 12:34 PM
  #22  
john banks
Scooby Regular
 
john banks's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2000
Location: 32 cylinders and many cats
Posts: 18,658
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

It depends what you value as an absolute. If you buy gold, you'll have that weight in gold. Whilst there are recent long periods where you'd have lost out in purchasing power, in the long sweep of history, gold has been the most consistent and successful currency. You can't be robbed by inflation with gold. People can't print more gold.

I could easily see gold rising further, followed by stocks and then property.
Old 30 January 2009, 02:45 PM
  #23  
Deep Singh
Scooby Regular
 
Deep Singh's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2001
Posts: 5,582
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by JTaylor
Still creeping up, $920 per ounce now. Think we'll start to dip in.
I would wait until the next dip which will come with profit taking. If gold really takes off it will be when Obama and Brown start printing money

Edited to say, why don't you also consider oil in an ETF? I'm thinking about it as a medium term hold. Knowing my luck though someone will invent a pocket sized generator that runs on water and can power a country

Last edited by Deep Singh; 30 January 2009 at 02:47 PM.
Old 13 October 2010, 12:55 PM
  #24  
JTaylor
Scooby Regular
Thread Starter
 
JTaylor's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Home
Posts: 14,758
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

$1360 at the moment - anyone seen Matteeboy?
Old 13 October 2010, 01:02 PM
  #25  
tony de wonderful
Scooby Regular
 
tony de wonderful's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Posts: 10,329
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

It's a bubble, but how much further will the bull run?

I's say we are in the 'public' phase.


Last edited by tony de wonderful; 13 October 2010 at 01:11 PM.
Old 13 October 2010, 01:16 PM
  #26  
njkmrs
Scooby Regular
 
njkmrs's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 2,162
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by JTaylor
$1360 at the moment - anyone seen Matteeboy?


He was last seen taking off on his surfboard with a lead weight tied round his ankle .!!!!!!!!!!
Old 13 October 2010, 01:34 PM
  #27  
JTaylor
Scooby Regular
Thread Starter
 
JTaylor's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Home
Posts: 14,758
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by tony de wonderful
It's a bubble, but how much further will the bull run?

I's say we are in the 'public' phase.
I'd go with that and add that it's early phase. I'd also add that the timeframe could be fairly broad. As soon as Mystic Meg tips me off I'll share it with the board.
Old 13 October 2010, 02:52 PM
  #28  
Dingdongler
Scooby Regular
 
Dingdongler's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: In a house
Posts: 6,345
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

Originally Posted by tony de wonderful
It's a bubble, but how much further will the bull run?

I's say we are in the 'public' phase.


You'd say that because you have no idea what you are talking about. What percentage of your portfolio is in gold then?
Old 13 October 2010, 02:55 PM
  #29  
Dingdongler
Scooby Regular
 
Dingdongler's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: In a house
Posts: 6,345
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

Originally Posted by [B
Deep Singh;[/B]8450967]Err the second part of your statement contradicts the first. Either it will be a lond recession or there are bargains to be had now and money will start moving soon. It can't be both.

Investing inn gold is not so much about making money but preserving wealth at a time when fiat currencies are out of favour


Who is this guy? He seems to have been well ahead of his time, almost spookily predicting the fall in value of the US dollar and £

Last edited by Dingdongler; 13 October 2010 at 02:56 PM.
Old 13 October 2010, 02:55 PM
  #30  
tony de wonderful
Scooby Regular
 
tony de wonderful's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Posts: 10,329
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Dingdongler
You'd say that because you have no idea what you are talking about. What percentage of your portfolio is in gold then?
I'm all cash right nows as a plan to buy a house probably in the next 12-24 months.

I'd say you were in the 'delusion' subphase.


Quick Reply: Who's buying gold?



All times are GMT +1. The time now is 09:32 PM.