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Old Mar 12, 2008 | 10:41 AM
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My Ar$e!

I hear this line quoted all the time. most expensive here, rip-off britain etc.

Well, clearly people are making this statement (or rather re-cycling some old statement) are talking out of their ar$es.

Petrol
1.17 Norway
1.16 Netherlands
1.09 Belgium
1.07 Denmark
1.06 Finland
1.05 Northern Ireland
1.05 GB
1.03 Italy
1.03 Portugal
1.03 Germany
1.01 Sweden
1.00 France
0.90 Hungary
0.89 Slovakia
0.88 Poland
0.88 Austria
0.88 Ireland
0.87 Luxembourg
0.86 Czech Republic
0.82 Switzerland
0.82 Spain
0.81 Greece
0.77 Slovenia
0.77 Lithuania
0.74 Latvia
0.73 Estonia

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1.14 Norway
1.10 Northern Ireland
1.10 GB
1.07 Denmark
1.03 Sweden
1.01 Italy
0.95 Germany
0.94 Slovakia
0.92 Netherlands
0.91 Hungary
0.91 Finland
0.89 Switzerland
0.89 France
0.89 Ireland
0.89 Portugal
0.87 Belgium
0.87 Czech Republic
0.86 Austria
0.82 Poland
0.82 Greece
0.80 Estonia
0.79 Lithuania
0.78 Spain
0.78 Slovenia
0.77 Luxembourg
0.76 Latvia

Source: the AA
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Old Mar 12, 2008 | 10:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Dracoro
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1.05 GB
You reckon??

Its 113.9 here, and will go up again after today

ok so still not the dearest but a considerable bit more than 105
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Old Mar 12, 2008 | 10:46 AM
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0.48 USA


No wonder the Dutch are always off their faces, you would have to have something to take away the pain at those prices
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Originally Posted by CupraDave
You reckon??

Its 113.9 here, and will go up again after today

ok so still not the dearest but a considerable bit more than 105
Not for normal unleaded - £1.05 sounds about right on average. And the governemnt have let slip that the 2p fuel duty won't be going on for 6 months
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Old Mar 12, 2008 | 10:47 AM
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Originally Posted by CupraDave
You reckon??

Its 113.9 here, and will go up again after today

ok so still not the dearest but a considerable bit more than 105
It's an average (of normal UL). Everywhere I see is about 105/6. Where do you live where NUL is 113.9? everywhere?
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Old Mar 12, 2008 | 10:47 AM
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Originally Posted by CupraDave
You reckon??

Its 113.9 here, and will go up again after today

ok so still not the dearest but a considerable bit more than 105
Well stop filling up at service stations 105 is what its at where I live. Its taken over a countrys average I should imagine
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Old Mar 12, 2008 | 10:53 AM
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we only have 2 petrol companies operating here, Total and Shell, most petrol stations are Shell. But all the petrol stations here charge the same as the next


there must be some areas in the UK charging super low prices to get an average of 105
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Old Mar 12, 2008 | 10:57 AM
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I'll never complain about the cost of Petrol again.

Wow!!! .

This Governments Tax policy means we practically get petrol for free.
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Old Mar 12, 2008 | 10:58 AM
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You dont all have to run a car you know Ive ran 3 cars for the last few years and spent the last 2 months cycling, saved a fortune and feel much more fresh and healthy for it
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The isle of man is a tiny place. you can't extrapolate the costs there across the whole country. Just about EVERYWHERE I've seen in the last 2/3 months have been 104/5/6 so the average is clearly correct.

Apart from that the stats are AA stats and collated from all over the country so I'm in no doubt that they are correct.
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I may grumble about the cost but I will never stop buying the stuff cause I simply enjoy driving too much
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Originally Posted by Dracoro
The isle of man is a tiny place. you can't extrapolate the costs there across the whole country. Just about EVERYWHERE I've seen in the last 2/3 months have been 104/5/6 so the average is clearly correct.

Apart from that the stats are AA stats and collated from all over the country so I'm in no doubt that they are correct.
easy fella, I didn't say they were not correct, I simply commented that I pay way more than the quoted for both my Impreza and Megane
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Old Mar 12, 2008 | 11:11 AM
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Fair enough. out of interest, if 113.9 is what you pay for NUL, how much is SUL..
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And more importantly, what are you doing running an STI on Normal UL?
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ok so I think my point has been missed, the impreza is run on V Power and the Megane on normal UL, normal UL here is only about 3p cheaper than V Power meaning I am still paying more than the AA average

anyway like I said before I may moan about the price of fuel here but I will never stop buying it as I enjoy driving too much (especially with having limit free roads), besides, I pay cheaper road tax than you guys and I dont have to fork out for an MOT every year so I s'pose it all works out in the end.
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Old Mar 12, 2008 | 12:28 PM
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Originally Posted by CupraDave
we only have 2 petrol companies operating here, Total and Shell, most petrol stations are Shell. But all the petrol stations here charge the same as the next


there must be some areas in the UK charging super low prices to get an average of 105
Of course you realise The Isle of Man isn't counted as part of the UK for this survey
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Originally Posted by davegtt
You dont all have to run a car you know Ive ran 3 cars for the last few years and spent the last 2 months cycling, saved a fortune and feel much more fresh and healthy for it
Actually; due to the continuing decline of central government support for local amenities in many rural areas such as post offices, small businesses, regular bus services, small village schools etc.. many people DO have to run a car. When the current government leaves office, they will have made it MORE necessary to own a car in many areas, not less.

Your all fine and dandy if your a townie complaining that the nearest cash machine is a 3/4 of a mile away.... the issue is slightly more serious for many people when the nearest school/Doctor is 6+ miles away.

As for the petrol prices - at least Scandinavians have something to show for the extra tax they pay.

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Old Mar 12, 2008 | 01:44 PM
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About 0.61p p/l here, given the current exchange rate. But we earn A$, not GBP, so it's rather irrelevant.
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Originally Posted by Klaatu
About 0.61p p/l here, given the current exchange rate. But we earn A$, not GBP, so it's rather irrelevant.
I think this is the point people sometimes miss.
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Old Mar 12, 2008 | 01:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Prasius
Your all fine and dandy if your a townie complaining that the nearest cash machine is a 3/4 of a mile away.... the issue is slightly more serious for many people when the nearest school/Doctor is 6+ miles away.
...and that's if their kids all go to the nearest school, or even the same school.

It's all very well being in support of the family as a unit, but almost by definition that means one parent travelling to one place of work, the kids to a school (or schools) somewhere else, and the other parent having their own travel needs.

When I started work, both my home and office were within a reasonable walk of a railway station, so I commuted by train. I've had numerous home and office moves since then, some of which were my choice and most of which weren't. Now I work in a converted barn miles from any viable public transport links, so despite the fact that I still live near a station, it doesn't do me any good. Either I drive to work, or I'd waste around 3 hours a day on a combination of long walks and buses.
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...and that's if their kids all go to the nearest school, or even the same school.

It's all very well being in support of the family as a unit, but almost by definition that means one parent travelling to one place of work, the kids to a school (or schools) somewhere else, and the other parent having their own travel needs.

When I started work, both my home and office were within a reasonable walk of a railway station, so I commuted by train. I've had numerous home and office moves since then, some of which were my choice and most of which weren't. Now I work in a converted barn miles from any viable public transport links, so despite the fact that I still live near a station, it doesn't do me any good. Either I drive to work, or I'd waste around 3 hours a day on a combination of long walks and buses.
Ah yes, the curse of a "diverse" economy.
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And how much ROAD tax do each country pay?

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And how much ROAD tax do each country pay?

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In Australia, we have "rego" and "CTP" (Compulsory Third Party Person Insurance), which adds up to be about ~A$500. Then you need inspections (MOT), and your own "fully comp" insurance, (TPFaT will do legally, but not in reality) totalling about A$1600 p/a (For my 2003 2.0l Impeza GX) which is about 740 quid.

In NZ, you do not need insurance, legally, although this stance is changing, and you'd be "young" or a "fool" to drive without full insurance in both countries as drivers here in Aus and NZ are total ***** (So what if they can beat us at cricket)! In NZ you pay "rego" and an "ACC" levy, which is like a "state funded no fault" insurance policy. I sorta agree with that, but the policing and payouts for claims of and from the ACC in NZ is "questionable".
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Don't (all ?) these other countries have a far superior standard of living to us ?

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V-power 109.9 this very AM.
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Originally Posted by dunx
Don't (all ?) these other countries have a far superior standard of living to us?
Based on what?

I'd certainly say we have a better standard of living to Poland judging by the numbers of professionals coming here to do the crappy jobs we won't do and earn vastly more than they would back home.
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Originally Posted by fatherpierre
Based on what?

I'd certainly say we have a better standard of living to Poland judging by the numbers of professionals coming here to do the crappy jobs we won't do and earn vastly more than they would back home.
Try BP here in Milton Keynes!! they have 97ron, £1.09, 99ron £1.14 and Super 105ron £2.28 per litre!!!!!
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Originally Posted by Emoe
Try BP here in Milton Keynes!! they have 97ron, £1.09, 99ron £1.14 and Super 105ron £2.28 per litre!!!!!
It doesn't make standards of living bad though - just petrol expensive.

BP are nearly always more expensive anyway. I never use them on principal.

Who TF would pay £2.28 a litre? They can't sell much of that stuff.
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Originally Posted by fatherpierre
It doesn't make standards of living bad though - just petrol expensive.

BP are nearly always more expensive anyway. I never use them on principal.

Who TF would pay £2.28 a litre? They can't sell much of that stuff.
I bought £30 to fill my bike up and DAMN with the power commander set for the race setting it was a frikkin rocket ship!!!

I really wanna try this in my scoob!!!!
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The £2.28/litre stuff is 105 RON racing fuel, which they only sell at a few stations near racetracks. It's meant for competition and track days, not for general road use.
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So it wouldn't do much to my 1983 Merc 280CE then?

Other than give it a heart attack maybe
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