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Old 07 February 2007, 05:58 PM
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Hi all,

I am in a real spot of bother where I live there is a pedestian path I need to drive along in order to park my car outside my house, however the council are saying that pipes are not deep enough and driving along can cause damage. So 5 years ago they erected a bollard to prevent this but wsa shortly removed after us complaining about how would emergency services get to us if they are blocked.

Now they have done the same thing again by receting bollards we have used the excuse about emergency services but they have erected an unlockable bollard, is there anyway we can remove these legally i.e. by fighting them or even illegally by damaging them ?

all advice much appreciated
Old 07 February 2007, 06:17 PM
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ask a mate with a old van to reverse on to it , >> works for me,
Old 07 February 2007, 06:43 PM
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Good luck - I would think you have a long hard fight on your hands which you will ultimately lose
Old 07 February 2007, 06:50 PM
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Bolt cutters from B&Q, they are £50 but you can take them back after youve used them.

Sort it out.
Old 07 February 2007, 08:05 PM
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hammer the locks and hinge the throw it away
Old 07 February 2007, 08:29 PM
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Go to the local council and check the land plans you may find a right of way order that has never been used, worth a go

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Old 07 February 2007, 09:19 PM
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Hum, if theres a lock on it couldnt u just break the lock, then lower and raise the bollard has u come and go?
Old 07 February 2007, 09:49 PM
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The clues in the post!

Originally Posted by typeR_Jag
but they have erected an unlockable bollard
I dont think you can break off a lock thats not there?

First of all are all your neighbours in agreement?

If so get you and another guy to smash it down, either with a van (could be risky depending on size of bollard) or a sledge hammer. Take it in turns it will be gone in a couple of minutes, if no one reports that it has gone how will they know to replace it?

Best to do it just as its going dark as it makes it difficult for anyone to video (just in case you have any nasty neighbours) make sure you tidy it up at the base so it looks nice and you will have another 5 years with out the bollard
Old 07 February 2007, 10:16 PM
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angle grinder on the lock.make sure your neighbours wont grass you ,then buy an identicle padlock ,get several keys cut for the neighbours then when the council do a spot check all looks ok
Old 07 February 2007, 10:25 PM
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the best way is back a wagon over it that will shift it !!!!!
never tryed it (im ex council haha)now give it a go
Old 07 February 2007, 11:12 PM
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Thanks guys for all the variable advice im either going to get a sledge hammer and knock it down or angle grinde it i think. There is only one neighbour who will moan and hes the c**t who paid for the kerb drop and is moaning.

If he grasses me i'll ensure im somewhere else then i'll make sure he has to buy new tyres very often
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Originally Posted by 1168
angle grinder on the lock.make sure your neighbours wont grass you ,then buy an identicle padlock ,get several keys cut for the neighbours then when the council do a spot check all looks ok
How do you cut the Locks on an unlockable Bollard

If you read the thread it will stop you looking a fool
Old 07 February 2007, 11:22 PM
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angle grinder on the lock.make sure your neighbours wont grass you ,then buy an identicle padlock ,get several keys cut for the neighbours then when the council do a spot check all looks ok
Good thinking - really handy when there is an emegency and the emergency services can't get through
Old 08 February 2007, 12:13 AM
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Old 08 February 2007, 08:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Brun
Good thinking - really handy when there is an emegency and the emergency services can't get through
firecrews dont carry bolt croppers then!and do you think every ambulance and police car in the area has a key smuck
Old 08 February 2007, 08:49 AM
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Originally Posted by WR1JLD
How do you cut the Locks on an unlockable Bollard

If you read the thread it will stop you looking a fool
are you thick or what unlockable means removable my taking the padlock off thus releasing the post ,so it can be removed spanner
Old 08 February 2007, 09:29 PM
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Playing the Devil's advocate...

...i bet that you will be chuffed when the water or gas "pipes" burst due to vehicular traffic and you are either flooded or blown up.

...then your insurance company finds that the cause was all your own fault so rejects any claim and then sues you for the damage caused.

...and then the council sue you.

...and then your "c**t" neighbour sues you!

Maybe there is a more amicable solution

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Old 08 February 2007, 09:35 PM
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Drive a truck over the payment causing the pipes to burst...then they can put them where they should have been to start with....deep enough
Old 08 February 2007, 09:50 PM
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Originally Posted by 1168
are you thick or what unlockable means removable my taking the padlock off thus releasing the post ,so it can be removed spanner
unlockable to me,means you cannot lock it....
Old 08 February 2007, 09:54 PM
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Originally Posted by homer@duff
unlockable to me,means you cannot lock it....
So when you lock your front door, is it locked forever, or is it unlockable?

You do not have a right to park outside your house, by the way, unless it's on your private driveway.
Old 08 February 2007, 09:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Bubba po
So when you lock your front door, is it locked forever, or is it unlockable?

You do not have a right to park outside your house, by the way, unless it's on your private driveway.
no..its a lock
Old 08 February 2007, 10:09 PM
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Originally Posted by homer@duff
no..its a lock
But is it unlockable? If your door is lockable, then surely it's unlockable?
Old 08 February 2007, 10:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Bubba po
But is it unlockable? If your door is lockable, then surely it's unlockable?
its unlockable and also lockable..but its not an unlockable lock.
Old 08 February 2007, 10:24 PM
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i think what he means is that its a solid concrete block or a metal post that cannot be moved??
Old 08 February 2007, 10:36 PM
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Our coucuil did this outside some iof the houses up the road from me. Non od the neighbours were informed. Luckily they noticed, and as soon as the workforce had gone, they pulled them out before the concrete set They haven't reappeared since.

Anyhoo...solution...Certainly nothing a quick swing with the backhoe of a JCB wouldn't sort.

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Old 08 February 2007, 10:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Stephb1986
i think what he means is that its a solid concrete block or a metal post that cannot be moved??
Indeed. There would appear to be a few with the IQ of the said bollard posting on here today.
Old 08 February 2007, 10:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Suresh
Indeed. There would appear to be a few with the IQ of the said bollard posting on here today.

making up the numbers are you
Old 08 February 2007, 11:02 PM
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sorry guys meant to say lockable bollard my mistake. take the **** but no big deal everyone makes mistakes no ones perfect!!! anyhow the locable bollard doesnt have a padlock but has a key slot at the top, never seen this type before and totally agree with the fact that emergency services dont carry keys around!!!!
Old 08 February 2007, 11:06 PM
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they would just ram it out the way if it was that important. i have seen this type before but not paid much attention to it sorry i cant help
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stihl saw...job done


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