MOT / SORN Question
13 November 2006, 04:24 PM
#1
Scooby Regular
Thread Starter
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Just far enough from sunny Liverpool
Posts: 6,963
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
MOT / SORN Question
Guys, I need to get the drift bitch welded and MOT'd.
I let the tax expire and its currently on a SORN, but can I legally drive it to the MOT place?
Thanks
I let the tax expire and its currently on a SORN, but can I legally drive it to the MOT place?
Thanks
13 November 2006, 05:11 PM
#5
Scooby Regular
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Surrey/London borders.
Posts: 8,300
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Originally Posted by andy97
If you have a booking at the mot centre then yes you can drive there
You can't park or drive on a public road without tax and the DVLA would fine you if you were caught. Not very flexible, the DVLA!
You'd have to get it lifted to the garage to be 100% sure of no fine.
13 November 2006, 05:22 PM
#6
Scooby Regular
Join Date: Mar 2000
Location: Weston Super Mare, Somerset.
Posts: 14,102
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Well I'd lay good money (well not that much!) that you can go to an MOT without tax, provided it is booked in. Insurance is what matters dl
dl
13 November 2006, 05:25 PM
#7
Scooby Regular
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Surrey/London borders.
Posts: 8,300
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Give it whirl driving with no tax and see!
It's a £30 fine from the police and an £80 hit if the DVLA find out.
If stopped by police and a DVLA official is present he/she can have your car taken from you and crushed now. Insured or not.
I've seen it happen on many occasions.
It's a £30 fine from the police and an £80 hit if the DVLA find out.
If stopped by police and a DVLA official is present he/she can have your car taken from you and crushed now. Insured or not.
I've seen it happen on many occasions.
Trending Topics
13 November 2006, 05:37 PM
#9
Scooby Regular
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Surrey/London borders.
Posts: 8,300
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
I have issued a few of the £30 tickets for no tax myself
. A recent thing police have been allowed to do to stop drivers getting the bigger DVLA fine on police discression.
No tax usually means no insurance, so attracts lots of attention and the DVLA is mercenary in their fining, with zero tollerance.
. A recent thing police have been allowed to do to stop drivers getting the bigger DVLA fine on police discression.No tax usually means no insurance, so attracts lots of attention and the DVLA is mercenary in their fining, with zero tollerance.
13 November 2006, 05:37 PM
#10
Scooby Regular
Join Date: Mar 2000
Location: Weston Super Mare, Somerset.
Posts: 14,102
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
I took my info from a car club site as:
"You can still travel to and from an MOT station for the purposes of a pre-arranged MOT test without displaying a current tax disc i.e. if you had previously made a SORN declaration and now want to put the car back on the road, or you took it off the road before 31st January 1998 and did not need to make a SORN declaration.
You still must have valid and current insurance cover in force before taking it on the road for any purpose, including getting an MOT in advance of the tax disc."
??
"You can still travel to and from an MOT station for the purposes of a pre-arranged MOT test without displaying a current tax disc i.e. if you had previously made a SORN declaration and now want to put the car back on the road, or you took it off the road before 31st January 1998 and did not need to make a SORN declaration.
You still must have valid and current insurance cover in force before taking it on the road for any purpose, including getting an MOT in advance of the tax disc."
??
13 November 2006, 05:43 PM
#11
Scooby Regular
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Surrey/London borders.
Posts: 8,300
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Perhaps.
My guessing is you'd get the fine and then claim it back after contesting.
The SORN rules aren't clear and we are advised to issue tickets or report to DVLA.
Personally, I check for insurance/licence, etc. and if it's covered, along with proof of an MOT test they go on their way.
Drivers get hammered enough in this country and the chicken/egg thing with tax and MOT is a silly system.
My guessing is you'd get the fine and then claim it back after contesting.
The SORN rules aren't clear and we are advised to issue tickets or report to DVLA.
Personally, I check for insurance/licence, etc. and if it's covered, along with proof of an MOT test they go on their way.
Drivers get hammered enough in this country and the chicken/egg thing with tax and MOT is a silly system.
13 November 2006, 05:50 PM
#12
Scooby Regular
Join Date: Mar 2000
Location: Weston Super Mare, Somerset.
Posts: 14,102
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Hold on a minute. It's a straight question and either a yes or no answer and you are saying you do motorists but seem unclear about the law?
See also (yes I know it's just another forum group but it's too late to check with DVLA and it's the best that Google wqould throw up)
PH: No Tax or MOT - driving to MOT Test?
See also (yes I know it's just another forum group but it's too late to check with DVLA and it's the best that Google wqould throw up
)PH: No Tax or MOT - driving to MOT Test?
13 November 2006, 05:56 PM
#13
Scooby Regular
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Surrey/London borders.
Posts: 8,300
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
No tax is an absolute offence. There is discression on the part of the police officer whether to issue a fine or not.
It is up to the driver/keeper to tax the vehicle and then provide a defence as to why there was no tax. The DVLA would offer an out of court settlement (£80) or take you to court where the burden is on the driver/keeper to answer why they had no tax if they chose to go to court.
I am clear that no tax is an offence. But it is a DVLA enforced offence, with police given the option to fine the lower rate - again the fine can be contested in court. The police fine is again, down to the discression of the officer.
It is up to the driver/keeper to tax the vehicle and then provide a defence as to why there was no tax. The DVLA would offer an out of court settlement (£80) or take you to court where the burden is on the driver/keeper to answer why they had no tax if they chose to go to court.
I am clear that no tax is an offence. But it is a DVLA enforced offence, with police given the option to fine the lower rate - again the fine can be contested in court. The police fine is again, down to the discression of the officer.
13 November 2006, 06:08 PM
#15
Scooby Regular
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Surrey/London borders.
Posts: 8,300
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
There are soooo many cars being driven that are SORN. It has just made those people who didn't bother with tax/insurance/MOT fill out the SORN declaration and then drive as per before!
13 November 2006, 06:16 PM
#16
Scooby Regular
Join Date: Mar 2000
Location: Weston Super Mare, Somerset.
Posts: 14,102
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
And it really pisses me off when I have paid literally thousands of pounds over the years for insurance and some lowlife gets a £100 fine for driving without insurance or driving some non-MoT death trap which could hurt some innocent bystander. So I am on your side except that's not what the thread was about.........
13 November 2006, 06:20 PM
#17
Scooby Regular
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Surrey/London borders.
Posts: 8,300
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
I sent a lad to court for no licence, no insurance, no tax and for other driving offences and he got a 30 pound fine, and his licence (that he hasn't got) endorsed with 3 points.
13 November 2006, 08:22 PM
#18
Scooby Regular
Thread Starter
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Just far enough from sunny Liverpool
Posts: 6,963
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Thanks guys
Although I have insurance in place (traders policy) its probs easier- and safer- to trailer it.
It seems more sensible to spend £30 on a trailer for the day than have all the possible pain in the **** consequences if I bump in to the wrong person on the wrong day....
Although I have insurance in place (traders policy) its probs easier- and safer- to trailer it.
It seems more sensible to spend £30 on a trailer for the day than have all the possible pain in the **** consequences if I bump in to the wrong person on the wrong day....
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
Brzoza
Engine Management and ECU Remapping
1
02 October 2015 05:26 PM
