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Old 05 May 2006, 12:47 PM
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Have had a G plate escourt for 4 years now, I kept it so I could take it anywhere without having to worry if it got vandalised or stolen if I was going into town, as the Subaru is a nightmare waiting to happen left in a dodgy area. It got stolen from the house in the middle of the last night.

As usual the police said 'we'll keep an eye out for it, contact your insurance'.

Hows this for an idea to make the police do their jobs again:
Make them liable to pay 10% of all insurance theft claims in their area. Any money thats left over from the insurance kitty allocated each year gets paid to them as a bonus for doing their job well. Any shortfall and it comes out of next years salary. Only way of making them actually solve crime as I see it.
Old 05 May 2006, 01:00 PM
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We all hate the rozzers when we get done for speeding or something, but having recently watched some the reality police promgrammes (voiced by Jamie Theakston) they have a difficult job and are continually waging the war against car crime.

I think your views may be a little short sighted.
Old 05 May 2006, 01:03 PM
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P.S Sorry to hear about the car
Old 05 May 2006, 01:35 PM
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My brother's T5 volvo got nicked Wednesday night at 23:30. He turned up at his g/f's house, she was using it, and watched it shot up the road full of kids. This was down in Brighton.

Told the police, but have heard nothing.

What these thieving ***** dont realise, is that its not only the car, but the effect it has on your life. She has just had my brother's kid, and all the buggies / child seats / toys were in the back. Also, she had difficulty go to the hospital today, travelling etc. So, not only the car, but everything in it. Now we have to buy all new buggies, toys, and try to find a decent safe car.

He only recently put new tyres, cambelt, full service on it, car was mint.

Well, hash as it may sound, I hope they crash and die in it.

SBK

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Old 05 May 2006, 01:43 PM
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That happens in Brighton IIRC, you might be lucky.

Borat - was the scoob stolen, or the escort? If the latter - well, think yourself lucky, your strategy worked!
Old 05 May 2006, 02:31 PM
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****in hell what exactly do you expect the police to do. You cant exactly investigate the crime and so many cars get stolen all the time anyway its just a waste of resources. Theyre doing the right thing.
Old 05 May 2006, 02:40 PM
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With all the cameras out there, you'd think they'd spot it easily wouldn't you?

Took them 3 weeks to tell me my Clio was involved in a drive off the day it was nicked and that it was burnt out in Bradford 5 days later......
Old 05 May 2006, 03:27 PM
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Originally Posted by AudiLover
****in hell what exactly do you expect the police to do. You cant exactly investigate the crime and so many cars get stolen all the time anyway its just a waste of resources. Theyre doing the right thing.
What I want the police to do is put these thick ****s away for good, had some kid put his foot through the windscreen of the car 2 years ago, got his name from a witness who saw it happen (live on a walking route to a comp school). They did nothing to him. These scum hide behing the fact that they are on the dole or underaged or underprivilaged and they can't pay or be held responsible for what they do. The police hide behind the fact that 'their hands are tied' and even if they catch someone the courts won't be able to get anything out of them.

If the police did job their then this hooligan would not have been roaming the streets last night to nick my car. And he'l probably use it in a robbery and then nick another next week.

What the hell do I pay tax for if I get 'what do you expect the police to do?'. Their job is crime prevention.

I went to Rome 3 weeks ago, at night the flower sellers left their flowers in the street unatended overnight. Nobody vandalised or stole them - they were there in the morning ready to be sold.

The police operate zero tolerance out there, thats a large part of the reason for the lack of mundane crime. They are more interested in the coffee break or speeding tickets here, thats why the law abiding get shafted.

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escourt thank god
Old 05 May 2006, 03:30 PM
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Then how about you play detective yourself and you will see how hard it is for them to actually find the person that stoile your car. Some people just ask for too much.
Old 05 May 2006, 03:32 PM
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I think maybe if the courts put these fecking scum away for a long long time ,that maybe more of a deterrent than 30 hours community service and 6 points on a licence that they dont have.
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Originally Posted by AudiLover
Then how about you play detective yourself and you will see how hard it is for them to actually find the person that stoile your car. Some people just ask for too much.
You think its too much to ask that I expect the police to catch car thieves?
I am not a detective, I spend 9-5 earning money to pay the police to ensure law and order is maintained around me. I've now had 3 thefts and one act of vandalism on my property in 2 years - and thats in the good end of town. I expect better, and I'm also paying for better - as are you through taxation.
Old 05 May 2006, 04:03 PM
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Originally Posted by kingofturds
I think maybe if the courts put these fecking scum away for a long long time ,that maybe more of a deterrent than 30 hours community service and 6 points on a licence that they dont have.
Could not agree more. That would solve many of the problems in one easy move.
Old 05 May 2006, 04:44 PM
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I do pay the detective to find these thieves. I pay a great deal of tax, so Mr Detective is paid well !

Im not asking a lot, Im just asking them to do their job. I think that undercover TV program last week pretty much showed how the police work nowadays :-(

SBK
Old 05 May 2006, 05:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Simon K
I do pay the detective to find these thieves. I pay a great deal of tax, so Mr Detective is paid well !

Im not asking a lot, Im just asking them to do their job. I think that undercover TV program last week pretty much showed how the police work nowadays :-(

SBK
Oh I despair. Some crimes are not solvable. No witnesses, no cctv, no forensics, nothing left at the scene - what do u expect us to do....??

If its not solvable - we move onto the next one - which might be and they might admit to the first.

We do do our jobs - and don't believe everything you see on the tele. I'm not saying we are all perfect and there are always bad apples, but the majority of us do work hard
Old 05 May 2006, 05:21 PM
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Chop their hands off - they wouldn't be able to steal a car again.
Old 05 May 2006, 06:32 PM
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The point being that the Police aren’t stopping the rising rate of crime.

Whose fault this is we don’t know.

But according to the press a national computer system is going live soon which will track all car movements on the major road networks allowing Police to reconstruct car journeys. This information will be kept for 5 years!

So it appears that the Police are to focused on

1) Being "Big Brother" for the Government
2) Criminalising Motorists for minor infringements of speed limits
3) Detaining people who peacefully protest about Government Policy’s under the terrorism act e.g. read out names next to a war memorial or shout “rubbish” at a cabinet minister
4) Drinking tea, cultural diversity and human rights

And not interested in
A) Making people safe in their own homes
B) Letting people own a new-ish family car with out constant worries of it being stolen, vandalised or the owners violently attacked for the keys
C) Walk the streets with out being mugged for a £20 phone
D) Being threatened/ beaten up by groups of teenagers for daring to ask them not to play football against your car or not to throw stones through your front window etc.
Old 05 May 2006, 06:42 PM
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The problem is Felix that the police don't even bother to find out if it's solvable before writing things off as unsolvable.
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Ooops, double post......
Old 05 May 2006, 06:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Clarebabes
The problem is Felix that the police don't even bother to find out if it's solvable before writing things off as unsolvable.
Yes they do.

If there are forensics then they are always follwed up.
Old 05 May 2006, 06:58 PM
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The country is going to the dogs, the momentum is gathering at an alarming rate and I don't believe the police are solely to blame, the system as a whole is flawed.

Build more prisons, bring back chain gangs, hard labor and capital punishment. Make prison a place to fear, a living hell. Remove playstations and sky tv.

Criminals with total disregard for the consequences should waive their rights. If they cross the line and break the law they should have less rights than animals. None of this three strikes and you're out stuff, if you steal three times, you lose a hand. I bet you that person wouldn't steal again.

The criminals are just laughing at us, and I say f**k em.

Jules
Old 05 May 2006, 07:47 PM
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Felix, I can see your point and there's good and bad in every trade / organisation / country. The police have a very hard job, one which they can never win, they are disliked if your pulled over for speeding, and they are disliked if your car isnt found.

You only ever hear the bad things, you never hear how they help people out in accidents, murders etc etc. However, it seems that the poilce force is now become more like a business and its all about statistics.

At the end of the day, its not the police fault that my brothers car was stolen.

I feel the blame could be more higher up the tree, the government. It seems it easier to now steal, than to work an honest job.

Never mind, lets hope what goes around. comes around, and something nasty happens to the thieves.

SBK
Old 05 May 2006, 10:10 PM
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I'm annoyed that the emphasis is placed on us locking up our belongings rather than the criminal being banged up in the first place. Most of the country abides by the law, its a small minority who don't. Half of the problem is that if the police catch these people the G and the courts want to let them get off with minimal punishment and say they are 'rehabilitated' - but if the officers who have to enforce the law don't like it they should kick a stink up about the juctice system as it makes a sham of their jobs. It's the old **** prison guard 'I'm just doing my job' syndrome.

From my small dealings with mundane criminals its usualy teenagers who should have their parents boot up their bum, or drug induced wasters on the dole looking for the next fix. Saying 'ahh look at his poor upbringing' is fine when you don't have to live next to it but people soon change their tune with first hand experience of being a victim of crime.

Theres a real problem in my city with gangs of youths of school age causing trouble time and time again (same faces) and also gangs of unemployed with nothing better to do. The police should be targetting these people and their parents - then i'd have more respect than they can imagine for them.
American and continental police (French, Italian) are awesome, they enforce laws zero tolerence and their societies are so much freindlier than ours as a result.
Old 05 May 2006, 10:12 PM
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Damn you guys whine and bitch too much about everything. Go anywhere else in the world and the procedure will be the same. Grow up and accept it.
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