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Old Sep 16, 2005 | 02:24 PM
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America didn't excist.....

just talking about the USA really, if it just wasnt there, and never had been...

loads of people seem to have a problem witht the yanks, was just wondering how different the world would be without them, dunno if it'd be better or worse...

who would be the world superpower in their place, Russia, Germany, us?

would we of won the world wars? would there of been world wars?

would we be more or less advanced than we are now?

would we of developed atomic weapons?

would islamics still hate the west?

just thinking o a friday afternoon, not siding with or against the better or worse argument!

feel free to discuss!
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Old Sep 16, 2005 | 02:26 PM
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Old Sep 16, 2005 | 02:28 PM
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No Dilbert

Who 'dat???
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Old Sep 16, 2005 | 02:34 PM
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Originally Posted by wez_sti
America didn't exist.....

just talking about the USA really, if it just wasnt there, and never had been...

loads of people seem to have a problem witht the yanks, was just wondering how different the world would be without them, dunno if it'd be better or worse...

who would be the world superpower in their place, Russia, Germany, us? Us, there'd still be an empire.

would we have won the world wars? would there have been world wars? Maybe, Yes.

would we be more or less advanced than we are now? Same, give or take.

would we have developed atomic weapons? Yes.

would islamics still hate the west? Yes, they hate everyone.

just thinking o a friday afternoon, not siding with or against the better or worse argument! Better.

feel free to discuss!
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Old Sep 16, 2005 | 02:35 PM
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Originally Posted by wez_sti
Who 'dat???
Dilbert
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Old Sep 16, 2005 | 02:43 PM
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Originally Posted by SJ_Skyline

ahh, seen him dotted around the office!

same with simpsons actually

ohhh, and jessica abla

some intresting input jap2scrap
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Old Sep 16, 2005 | 02:44 PM
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Without the USA we'd all be talking German.
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Old Sep 16, 2005 | 02:46 PM
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Without the USA we'd all be talking German.

Nine, das is fas
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Old Sep 16, 2005 | 02:55 PM
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Most of the internet would look like this for a start:

Clickty

Perhaps even worse if we were run by China, no bitching about the government allowed there. It gets blocked by the Great FireWall of China.

To be honest, although things aren't too brilliant at the moment with the US running things, we should be thankful because we could do a hell of a lot worse.
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Old Sep 16, 2005 | 02:56 PM
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If the Germans had one the war there would only be germany. There would certainly be no islamic faith allowed.
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Old Sep 16, 2005 | 03:14 PM
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Originally Posted by lightning101

If the Germans had one the war there would only be germany. There would certainly be no islamic faith allowed.

wonder if germany had of won, we'd be in a simular position to the palestine/israel thing, where we'd be sending in suicide bombers to Berlin...?
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Old Sep 16, 2005 | 03:24 PM
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If the Germans had one the war there would only be germany. There would certainly be no islamic faith allowed.
So if they won it wouldn't have been all bad then.
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Old Sep 16, 2005 | 03:31 PM
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Originally Posted by TheBigMan
So if they won it wouldn't have been all bad then.
Unless you weren't aerian of course.
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Old Sep 16, 2005 | 03:38 PM
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Originally Posted by TheBigMan

Without the USA we'd all be talking German.
English pride makes me want to think that we would of anyway, but has it ever been looked into properly, to work out if we would of or not?? obviously victory would of definately took longer if we'd of won at all....
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Old Sep 16, 2005 | 04:56 PM
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Originally Posted by wez_sti
America didn't excist.....

just talking about the USA really, if it just wasnt there, and never had been...

loads of people seem to have a problem witht the yanks, was just wondering how different the world would be without them, dunno if it'd be better or worse...

who would be the world superpower in their place, Russia, Germany, us?
- the soviet union in our area. japan in the east. imagine the ruthless, despotic pan-european & pan-pacific charnel houses that would have resulted. and would still exist. doesn't bear thinking about.

would we of won the world wars? would there of been world wars?
- interesting as the US joined both long after they'd both kicked off and the root causes were european. WW1 would have lasted longer but probably ended the same way. WW2? without a german a-bomb, they'd be speaking russian in calais. the pac-rim would be the japanese empire. our empire would still have probably gone. with a german a-bomb, they'd be speaking german in calais, vladivostock and possibly here.

would we be more or less advanced than we are now?
- probably as advanced but maybe in different ways; certainly culturally different. probably less prosperous without an american economic powerhouse. plus no dodge viper or SVT lightning. which would be a shame.

would we of developed atomic weapons?
- inevitably yes but maybe later because of the sheer financial investment required ($2bn+ in 1945 terms) and the pressure of war - a huge amount of non-American euro-brain power went into the physics of the manhattan project.

would islamics still hate the west?
- undoubtedly: the west would still be perceived as corrupt and degenerate.

just thinking o a friday afternoon, not siding with or against the better or worse argument!

feel free to discuss!
for better or worse, i'm glad america "is"
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Old Sep 16, 2005 | 05:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Holy Ghost
for better or worse, i'm glad america "is"


F*ck Yea....!!!
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Old Sep 16, 2005 | 05:04 PM
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