Smoking to be banned in England
15 November 2004, 10:05 PM
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I know a few people that don't go to pubs because of the smoke. In the future they will.
Pubs will still do a good trade long term as most people will put drinking and socialising above having a smoke.
Clubs and non-food serving pubs will still allow smoking though.
15 November 2004, 10:09 PM
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About time too...
For those who havn't see inside a hospital wing with Smoking related cancer sufferers on it... i fully recormend it!
Nuf sed!
For those who havn't see inside a hospital wing with Smoking related cancer sufferers on it... i fully recormend it!
Nuf sed!
15 November 2004, 10:09 PM
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I love going out for a few beers at the weekend but can't stand smelling of smoke. I dont see why i should suffer, if people really need to smoke they can do it outside.
If they do ban it I will be very pleased.
If they do ban it I will be very pleased.
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15 November 2004, 10:19 PM
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Heck, I actually agree with Pete on something 
At the end of the day it's all about choice, and right now the only choice I have is to stay at home, or end up stinking of tobacco. With a full ban, anyone can go anywhere and breathe fresh air (a not unreasonable request IMHO) and smokers can always pop outside to feed their habit.
At the end of the day it's all about choice, and right now the only choice I have is to stay at home, or end up stinking of tobacco. With a full ban, anyone can go anywhere and breathe fresh air (a not unreasonable request IMHO) and smokers can always pop outside to feed their habit.
15 November 2004, 10:22 PM
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Great, i might actually start going pubbing/clubbing a bit more when it happens. I really hate coming home minging of smoke, ******* filthy habit. 
It's going to be amusing watching all of the hardened "our freedom's being eroded" smokers bleating about it.
Ha ha fcuckwits
It's going to be amusing watching all of the hardened "our freedom's being eroded" smokers bleating about it.Ha ha fcuckwits
15 November 2004, 10:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Jerome
Speculation or fact?
I say ban smoking full stop. And I smoke.
15 November 2004, 10:25 PM
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Originally Posted by CKY2K
I love going out for a few beers at the weekend but can't stand smelling of smoke. I dont see why i should suffer, if people really need to smoke they can do it outside.
If they do ban it I will be very pleased.
If they do ban it I will be very pleased.
15 November 2004, 10:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Buckrogers
Just been on BBC news at ten. Will be announced tomorrow, as usual been leaked by someone in Labour.
I say ban smoking full stop. And I smoke.
I say ban smoking full stop. And I smoke.
seriously though all these smokers are helping us non smokers with our tax paying keeping it too a minimum
15 November 2004, 10:29 PM
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Originally Posted by davegtt
I mean if they ban it all together who's gonna pay for our fabulous NHS
15 November 2004, 10:30 PM
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Originally Posted by davegtt
Smoking does have its advantages, I mean if they ban it all together who's gonna pay for our fabulous NHS seriously though all these smokers are helping us non smokers with our tax paying keeping it too a minimum
seriously though all these smokers are helping us non smokers with our tax paying keeping it too a minimum If it was banned, there would be no NHS....
15 November 2004, 10:32 PM
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Originally Posted by pslewis
Nice One!!
Smokers ....... act NOW and either STOP or clear out of our pubs with your disgusting nasty smelly habit
Pete
Smokers ....... act NOW and either STOP or clear out of our pubs with your disgusting nasty smelly habit
Pete
15 November 2004, 10:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Buckrogers
There is NO OTHER product that the goverment can charge or get away with charging 80% tax....
If it was banned, there would be no NHS....
If it was banned, there would be no NHS....
or is that 70%?
15 November 2004, 10:36 PM
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Originally Posted by StickyMicky
petrol?
or is that 70%?
or is that 70%?
Bought 200 B&H for £10 yesterday. £47 in the shops.
15 November 2004, 10:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Buckrogers
There is NO OTHER product that the goverment can charge or get away with charging 80% tax....
15 November 2004, 10:40 PM
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lol Just a moment too late!
Anyway, petrol doesn't have 80% tax - rather, 80% of the cost of petrol IS tax. That's a tax rate of 400%
Just a moment too late!Anyway, petrol doesn't have 80% tax - rather, 80% of the cost of petrol IS tax. That's a tax rate of 400%
15 November 2004, 11:04 PM
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If a ban results in any decline in tax revenue, guess where the easiest place to get it back is?
As for forcing people to pay directly for health care (as in the US) to make people reconsider their lifestyle, it won't work. A large portion of the smoking population cannot afford private health care.
A smoking ban in England is inevitable, but, as well as many benefits, there will be some negative effects.
As for forcing people to pay directly for health care (as in the US) to make people reconsider their lifestyle, it won't work. A large portion of the smoking population cannot afford private health care.
A smoking ban in England is inevitable, but, as well as many benefits, there will be some negative effects.
16 November 2004, 12:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Buckrogers
There is NO OTHER product that the goverment can charge or get away with charging 80% tax....
If it was banned, there would be no NHS....
If it was banned, there would be no NHS....
If there were no smokers then a huge weight would be removed from the NHS, allowing them to have more time to treat patients without self inflicted illness and disease..
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16 November 2004, 01:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Jason Crozier
That's a daft comment, think about it and resubmit ...
What part of that statement is daft?
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16 November 2004, 01:43 AM
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Originally Posted by lem0ncurd
Why's that? I think it's a perfectly legitimate argument. Smoking is one of the leading causes of Cancer and related diseases in the UK. If there were no smokers, then the NHS would definately be relieved of a huge patient burden due to the lack of smoking related illness and disease.
What part of that statement is daft?
LC
What part of that statement is daft?
LC
16 November 2004, 01:47 AM
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Originally Posted by lem0ncurd
And what percentage of the NHS budget do you think is wasted on people who only have themselves to blame for being in Hospital in the 1st place!?
If there were no smokers then a huge weight would be removed from the NHS, allowing them to have more time to treat patients without self inflicted illness and disease..
LC
If there were no smokers then a huge weight would be removed from the NHS, allowing them to have more time to treat patients without self inflicted illness and disease..
LC
Do you think anyone that is in hospital due to a hobby related accident should be treated? You could save the NHS a fortune.
If non-smoking pubs n clubs are such a good idea why not open one and see how well you do (You might make your fortune)
Smoking & hunting today but what about when it is something you enjoy doing? cars that do less than 30 to the gallon for example.
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16 November 2004, 01:50 AM
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Jerome,
Yeah, you're right. Smoking is bad, but what we eat def. has the largest impact on our health and resistance to disease.
Time to put an 80% tax on confectionary and junk food too then!
LC
Yeah, you're right. Smoking is bad, but what we eat def. has the largest impact on our health and resistance to disease.
Time to put an 80% tax on confectionary and junk food too then!
LC
16 November 2004, 01:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Tandy
Do you think anyone that is in hospital due to a hobby related accident should be treated? You could save the NHS a fortune.
Tandy
Accidents are unfortunate and happen to everyone, but smoking is YOUR choice.
LC