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Old 22 July 2004, 09:33 AM
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Thumbs up Squatters get caravan torched.

Did anyone see this on GMTV? Serves you right for invading an old dears home.

Whoever did it - nice one!
Old 22 July 2004, 09:48 AM
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Yep, totally agree.

But no doubt this'll thread will be removed. It should not be.

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Old 22 July 2004, 09:52 AM
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What's the story (in balamory).....?
Old 22 July 2004, 09:52 AM
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LOL! Classic!
Old 22 July 2004, 10:03 AM
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They are talking about this.....

http://www.sky.com/skynews/article/0...163532,00.html
Old 22 July 2004, 10:08 AM
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Shortly before their departure a nearby caravan believed to belong to the couple was set ablaze.
Let's hope it WAS their caravan then....and that they made sure there was no one in there, least of all the 6-year old.
Old 22 July 2004, 10:08 AM
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Doing well - Thread with P word in title lasting 45 minutes and counting
Old 22 July 2004, 10:08 AM
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Excellent, just the type of news I like to set me up for a good day!!

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Old 22 July 2004, 10:09 AM
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LOL
Brilliant story. Glad the low life involved got some rough justice.


and no, this thread should not be removed.

Last edited by Suresh; 22 July 2004 at 10:10 AM. Reason: Not fully awake yet..
Old 22 July 2004, 10:30 AM
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Hope there were no cats in that caravan
Old 22 July 2004, 10:36 AM
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people in caravans don't always cause trouble
i don't agree with burning them, they are humans afterall
kids often live in them
evil scum people can be found everywhere not just caravans
you hear of these attacks occaisionaly

some people really don't like caravaners
could you have done this yourself?
u should really think of those who could have been killed
murder could have occured here
Old 22 July 2004, 10:42 AM
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LOL @ Ringpeas

It serves them right, trying to claim someone elses home as theirs.
Old 22 July 2004, 11:42 AM
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Is the P word not allowed anymore?

or has it been deemed to be discrimation like "hardworking" has?

the world is crackers...
Old 22 July 2004, 11:46 AM
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breif account of events.

Old dear uncapable of looking after herself moves into retirement home and has to sell the house to pay for her care.

when she's gone, squatters move, by getting in through an open window - as there's no sign of forced entry the police are powerless to evict.

on GMTV yesterday morning, reporter questions them but gets told where to go in no uncertain terms.

Pi.. I mean squatters have parked caravan around the corner and last night it got torched by outraged locals Squatters leave shortly after.
Old 22 July 2004, 12:11 PM
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Good to see someone showed some backbone and torched their property

Can anyone explain the logic in that the police have no powers to evict.... or should we put it down to this country seems to side with the dregs of society all the time....

My gran owns a property which is let to a couple of ***** which dont pay the rent. Letting agency instruct them that the lease wont be renewed and give a date to vacate the property..... couple go to the local council whos advice is stay in the property and await being taken to court and then they will help them with accomodation. Of course the council have no concern that my 88 year old gran has to take them to court or the outstanding money or that she continues to loose more money whilst the ******* are in there.
Old 22 July 2004, 12:13 PM
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Put the house up for sale. Get some of your friends around to view the property and express an interest.

You don't have to sell, but if they know they're being turfed out soon, they might move.
Old 22 July 2004, 12:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Mice_Elf
Put the house up for sale. Get some of your friends around to view the property and express an interest.
make sure they remember to bring their axe handles and "sports equipment" with them whilst "viewing" the property.

Old 22 July 2004, 12:32 PM
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Originally Posted by StevieB
My gran owns a property which is let to a couple of ***** which dont pay the rent. Letting agency instruct them that the lease wont be renewed and give a date to vacate the property..... couple go to the local council whos advice is stay in the property and await being taken to court and then they will help them with accomodation. Of course the council have no concern that my 88 year old gran has to take them to court or the outstanding money or that she continues to loose more money whilst the ******* are in there.
You should wait for them both to go out then go in and chuck all their stuff out and change the locks. You have all the paper work proving they should have moved out. When the police turn up just plead ignorance and say they moved out weeks ago as per their notice to vacate and they must be making up a story to cause trouble!
Old 22 July 2004, 12:34 PM
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Originally Posted by StevieB
My gran owns a property which is let to a couple of ***** which dont pay the rent. Letting agency instruct them that the lease wont be renewed and give a date to vacate the property..... couple go to the local council whos advice is stay in the property and await being taken to court and then they will help them with accomodation.
exact same thing happened to a colleague. single bloke had a job, turned alchy and gave up work - and hence rent. after a couple of months they tried to kick him out DHSS advised him to stay. he stayed put, went to court. eventually dhss agreed to pay some of the rent (no where near private rental payment). the bloke then had to move when the property was sold. all in all my colleague was out of pocket to the tune of several thousand pounds. courts were not interested in the home owners rights - only the scum feeloading.
Old 22 July 2004, 12:47 PM
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I once went to view a house with squatters in it. One of the guys was guiding me around the house and asking why I would want to move into such an area, "All the neighbours look down at us around here" he said.
He asked if I did buy the house could I let them live there for at least 6 months.

As far as eviction is concerned it's a pretty straightforward procedure. It's just the time and expense that's the bummer.
Old 22 July 2004, 01:01 PM
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Originally Posted by StevieB
...

Can anyone explain the logic in that the police have no powers to evict.... or should we put it down to this country seems to side with the dregs of society all the time....

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Squatting is, and always has been, seen as a civil matter rather than a criminal one. It is a dispute between individuals over the possesion of a property.

Provided court procedure is followed in settling the matter then owner - or the person legally entitled to possession - will always succeed in a claim for a 'possession order'. This then entitles the owner to the services of the court bailiffs in evicting a trespasser who remains in occupation.

So it seems that this country doesn't side with the 'dregs' all the time.
Old 22 July 2004, 01:15 PM
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about time the law was changed.

IMHO, squatting is intruding, they're not wanted on the premises and they are not the legal owner, therefore they have no right to be there.

Squatting should be regarded as a breach of the peace, and as locals get very irate by it - you might argue that it's incenting(sp) to riot - a strong word but a caravan has been burnt out after all - Maybe it was Jeremy Clarkson or Bricktop...
Old 22 July 2004, 01:26 PM
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As a matter of interest does the Squatting bit only apply to vacant premises, or could you come home having forgotten to lock the front door, find a load of pikeys in your house and then not be able to get them out for months??
Old 22 July 2004, 01:31 PM
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I don't see why the police can't forcibly remove people from property which does not belong to them when they are uninvited.
Old 22 July 2004, 01:34 PM
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Originally Posted by messiah
I don't see why the police can't forcibly remove people from property which does not belong to them when they are uninvited.

I think it comes down to yet another bit of crappy UK law:

The couple had changed the locks when they first entered the property and pinned a message to the front door claiming their rights under "Section Six".

The note refers to the Criminal Justice Act 1977 which bars people from gaining access to property, including their own, by using violence or threats of violence.
Old 22 July 2004, 01:38 PM
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“I don't see why the police can't forcibly remove people from property which does not belong to them when they are uninvited”....

Exactly and the same goes for people who dont pay rent.... if you stop paying then as far as I am concerned you have no right to be there
Old 22 July 2004, 01:40 PM
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Originally Posted by StevieB
“I don't see why the police can't forcibly remove people from property which does not belong to them when they are uninvited”....

Exactly and the same goes for people who dont pay rent.... if you stop paying then as far as I am concerned you have no right to be there
I agree that is how it should be - sadly the law protects the squatters. It should be a simple case of take your deeds to the Police station, the Police go and drag the squatters out.
Old 22 July 2004, 01:40 PM
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I saw that note on the window.

If it was me I don't think I'd be letting a post-it note get in the way of removing them by force - this sort of nonsense makes my blood boil
Old 22 July 2004, 01:42 PM
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Originally Posted by messiah
I saw that note on the window.

If it was me I don't think I'd be letting a post-it note get in the way of removing them by force - this sort of nonsense makes my blood boil
I can't agree enough, the trouble is, if you did use force, the Police would be carting you away and leaving the squatters in your house. Watch Pacific Heights some time to see this taken to the absolute extreme in the US!


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