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Old Nov 14, 2003 | 02:40 PM
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Sadly a fatal accidient happened of the A40 on weds night (about midnight), an overturned lorry completey blocked westbound.
Two lanes eastbound had to be closed for access.
I can understand this causes problems on my journey to work at 8:00am.
But why the HELL were the same clousres still in effect at 18:00 in the evening!
I'm sure others here where caught in the chaos, it took me 3 hours to do the first 7 miles of my journey.
Surely th old bill can take their photos, and measure their skidmarks a little quicker than this?
But they're not answerable to anybody so they just take theire sweet time.
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Old Nov 14, 2003 | 02:55 PM
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2 drivers have been arrested, on charges of causing death by dangerous driving. In view of this, I would imagine the Police investigations must take some time.
More importantly, the road has to be resurfaced, apparently due to the huge amount of diesel which has soaked into the tarmac.

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Old Nov 14, 2003 | 02:58 PM
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2 bmw drivers wasnt it - allegedly racing?
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Old Nov 14, 2003 | 03:05 PM
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Correct, 1 of whom did a runner from the scene.
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Old Nov 14, 2003 | 03:06 PM
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where abouts on the A40 was this?
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Old Nov 14, 2003 | 03:07 PM
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Haven't both have been arrested though? I saw the shocking state of the lorry cab on the news.
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Old Nov 14, 2003 | 03:11 PM
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Both drivers have now been arrested. The accident was close to the Polish war memorial. More details here - http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/3266241.stm
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Old Nov 14, 2003 | 03:17 PM
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What a mess of the truck. Poor bloke
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Old Nov 14, 2003 | 03:21 PM
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Dont worry about that jhrfc1 wanted to get home.....
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Old Nov 14, 2003 | 03:30 PM
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Read my post SB, it's tragic an innocent person was killed by these selfish idiots, but my problem is with the time taken to re-open a major route.
Do you suggest we should keep the A40 closed for a week as a mark of respect?
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Old Nov 14, 2003 | 03:56 PM
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As stated above:
More importantly, the road has to be resurfaced, apparently due to the huge amount of diesel which has soaked into the tarmac.
Would you rather the road be opened with a dangerous surface? Which could cause another accident.
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Old Nov 14, 2003 | 04:20 PM
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Sympathies to the innocent victim.

20 hours. That gets the Plod well into their 3rd shift of standing around drinking coffee watching the Fire Brigade do their job.
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Old Nov 14, 2003 | 04:42 PM
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Incredibly this is the third fatality in one week on this stretch of the A40 - a straight dual carriageway with a 50 mph limit
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Old Nov 14, 2003 | 06:35 PM
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Look out for it to become 40mph, or even 30mph pretty soon then, with PLENTY cameras:
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Old Nov 14, 2003 | 07:31 PM
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I have noticed this of late in many areas. In Scotland I have seen at least one case where the road was reopened and then closed for several days in order to "collect evidence." The press were invited to witness this exciting event which seemed to involved a few coppers and a bit of measuring tape.

I also witnessed an incident where a road was closed for nearly 48 hours as a result of an accident. No resurfacing or other major work was required.

Am I just being cynical in thinking that this seems to be some form of new policy to punish motorists for having accidents? Police know that we don't believe revenue cameras are for safety so they are going to delay us all until we beg for mercy. Once we do beg for mercy they are going to say "more cameras would make the road safer and would mean less delays."

They are trying to paint us into a corner and we have to fight every step of the way.
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Old Nov 14, 2003 | 10:18 PM
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with three fatalities in a week this place needs cameras. How many are currently there?

We have a stretch of road in Belfast where there is a sharpish bend followed closely by a junction in a 50. All the lanes are quite narrow as the normal 4 lanes have been split to 5 to allow a filter lane. Since I moved here in 1997 I can remember at least 7 fatalities and almost weekly serious injuries within 200 yards of the junction.
In July the police announced that they were putting a fixed camera on the road. I thought - 'good plan'....... unfortunately they put it about a mile away in a 40 zone on a relatively safe piece of road. I can never remember any accident near the camera location... not even a minor one (straight road, 40 zone, 25ft high walls on either side of the road and no junctions or traffic lights nearby.)
Seems like they made the right decision as the camera has netted them 80k in the 10 weeks it has been in place


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Old Nov 14, 2003 | 11:47 PM
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so next time your "wasting the fella in the evo" think about it ay?
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Old Nov 15, 2003 | 12:09 AM
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jhfrc1,

It is unlikely surely that the police would keep the road closed unless there was a good reason for it. Diesel soaked tarmac is pretty lethal,especially to 'bikers. Maybe worth knowing all the facts before shouting about it!

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Old Nov 15, 2003 | 01:46 PM
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Also, the whole area is treated as a crime scene so I'd guess there was plenty of evidence to be collected before the clear up began.
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