Can flamer kits get you points?
23 February 2003, 05:14 PM
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CC - I'd say that the answer is yes, given that the police could very well argue that your car is in a dangerous condition. Let's face it, shooting flames from the exhaust isn't terribly safe...
...although it didn't trouble Mike R at the Donnington services petrol forecourt
...although it didn't trouble Mike R at the Donnington services petrol forecourt
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23 February 2003, 06:31 PM
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rik1471- no "I" didn't 
astraboy- the code looks like CE41 (dangerous condition)
[Edited by jonny gav - 2/23/2003 7:02:14 PM]
astraboy- the code looks like CE41 (dangerous condition)
[Edited by jonny gav - 2/23/2003 7:02:14 PM]
23 February 2003, 07:49 PM
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Its only a bit of fun! Feel sorry for your mate though. Imagine his face! Thought he was having a bit of fun and entertaining the boys and next thing he knows, 3 points! Ouch
23 February 2003, 08:24 PM
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Rik, you're right of course but at least this guy can turn off his £99 flamer kit. It would be worse if the car naturally spat flames out due to de-catting & other mods costing many times more and he got done for it. What would you do then? take off the costly mods?
24 February 2003, 07:40 PM
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yea but theres flames and theres flames, these kits spit out 4 feet flames, the decated cars i`ve seen flaming just have small flames just the size of the tail pipe.
24 February 2003, 11:30 PM
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Ignore my incompetence, but how do WRC cars get on? They have to be road legal, yet they spit out flames (or is this only due to ALS, which I presume is only switched on in stages)??
25 February 2003, 02:12 PM
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Hmmm......
I can't actually see where the offence is?
For example, my brother's Saff Cossie runs reasonable bhp, and doesn't have one of our kits on. It runs rich on the over-run, and will flame like a car with a kit installed.
The car is road legal, has an MOT (therefore roadworthy), and would pass a roadside emissions check, as the CO is spot on. Please someone explain where that is illegal?
I think the police are well aware of the fact that certain companies out there are now selling kits that rely on gas to ignite - i.e. direct butane injection into the exhaust with a spark plug!
The original flamer kit we sell is just a bit of fun - gas powered, however, do smack a little of stupidity! I mean, would ou want be to a rear seat passenger in a car, in an accident with a can of butane in the boot?
I can't actually see where the offence is?
For example, my brother's Saff Cossie runs reasonable bhp, and doesn't have one of our kits on. It runs rich on the over-run, and will flame like a car with a kit installed.
The car is road legal, has an MOT (therefore roadworthy), and would pass a roadside emissions check, as the CO is spot on. Please someone explain where that is illegal?
I think the police are well aware of the fact that certain companies out there are now selling kits that rely on gas to ignite - i.e. direct butane injection into the exhaust with a spark plug!
The original flamer kit we sell is just a bit of fun - gas powered, however, do smack a little of stupidity! I mean, would ou want be to a rear seat passenger in a car, in an accident with a can of butane in the boot?
25 February 2003, 07:40 PM
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the copper said the car was in dangerous condition
his point was- what if you drove past a bus stand and set fire to someones clothing!
or if there was petrol spilt on the road!
both very unlikely BUT could happen
still my mate has 3 points and is £60 lighter.
the thing is the police car that saw him was unmarked and even called in a patrol car to pull him for it!
[Edited by jonny gav - 2/25/2003 7:40:48 PM]
his point was- what if you drove past a bus stand and set fire to someones clothing!
or if there was petrol spilt on the road!
both very unlikely BUT could happen
still my mate has 3 points and is £60 lighter.
the thing is the police car that saw him was unmarked and even called in a patrol car to pull him for it!
[Edited by jonny gav - 2/25/2003 7:40:48 PM]
26 February 2003, 05:11 AM
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Ye seen the Butane kits Rich is talking about.
Look impressive at shows etc cause you get like a jet noise aswell, but on the street got to be a bit iffy.
Always wondered were I stood with my car spitting flames (no kit)spose I know now, But I know I wouldnt take an on the spot, straight to court and argue the toss!
Look impressive at shows etc cause you get like a jet noise aswell, but on the street got to be a bit iffy.
Always wondered were I stood with my car spitting flames (no kit)spose I know now, But I know I wouldnt take an on the spot, straight to court and argue the toss!
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