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Old Apr 10, 2001 | 09:30 PM
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Dell P4 1.5 ghz
256mb RDRAM
80 gb hard disk
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64mb GeForce video card
Windoze 2000

Should be ok for cruising the Muppet highway.....

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Old Apr 10, 2001 | 10:09 PM
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how much and from where???
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Old Apr 10, 2001 | 10:11 PM
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Dell, deal directly from the website.

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Old Apr 10, 2001 | 10:44 PM
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Sounds pretty impressive Dave - do you have a fast internet connection to complement it? ISDN, ADSL, cable modem or similar I mean.

I just use a 56k modem.
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Old Apr 10, 2001 | 10:51 PM
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Dave,

Is it one of those Precision 330 ? Or the home version ?

If its the Precision, I got one too But I've got the nVidia Quadro 2 graphics for games.. er I mean fast graphical rendering which is so important in my work, honest boss

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Old Apr 11, 2001 | 12:45 AM
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Gary - read the first para in my previous post.......
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Old Apr 11, 2001 | 01:11 AM
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So were the De-Loreans
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Old Apr 11, 2001 | 01:13 AM
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But seriously.... Wish I could justify getting such a 'monster' machine (wife would not allow it, not before the new conservetory anyway )
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Old Apr 11, 2001 | 01:26 AM
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Get the conservatory.... nice place to relax and smoke a cigar, have a whisky, glass of wine, spend the summer....
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Old Apr 11, 2001 | 08:09 AM
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....got it direct from Dell, we only use Dells in the office, so ordered it via our company account, I don't have to pay the VAT and can offset it against my gross bonus so for a £3100 machine I pay £1570

It's the Dimension 8100 - in black and silver - the pics look cool

Only got a BT landline unfortunately.....in the sticks, no cable, ADSL is still effectively a myth and refuse to pay silly BT prices for ISDN

BTW it was Carolyn's idea to change the PC.....hehehe

Yeah I know it will be obsolete in 6 months...that's half the fun

Two reasons to change - only got a small desk in the study and currently got a 19" monitor on it that takes up too much space, so ordered a 17" flat panel, and having used NT4 at home with previous PC, and currently using Windoze 98 which I think is crap, looking forward to using W2000 (after about service pack 4....... )
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Old Apr 11, 2001 | 09:14 AM
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Dave TS

Are you selling your 19'Monitor when your new computer arrives . If so what is it and how much??????

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[This message has been edited by Luke (edited 11 April 2001).]
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Old Apr 11, 2001 | 09:24 AM
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Already two on the waiting list.....but will put you on if they dematerialise...

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Old Apr 11, 2001 | 10:45 AM
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What made you go for a P4? All the benchmarks I've seen show Athlons running quicker.

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Old Apr 11, 2001 | 12:08 PM
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Hey Dave mate..... still be obsolete in 6 months
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Old Apr 11, 2001 | 12:10 PM
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Obsolete or not - it will be very fast
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Old Apr 11, 2001 | 02:55 PM
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Sorry Dave, didn't make the connection, i.e. has to be a Dell for company account, Dells don't make Athlons. My second (old) machine is a Dell, been totally reliable for 2.5 years, and real easy to open up and tinker with.

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Old Apr 11, 2001 | 03:27 PM
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That's ok mate - and you are right - the Athlon is faster in some (most?LOL) tests.
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Old Apr 11, 2001 | 03:36 PM
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The P4 will get a boost once the OS's and software are properly coded to use its abilities.

However, by the time they are truly optimised to use it, you will be using Px's or something else.

Exactly the same as what happens in the graphics market, new cards have loads of bells and whistles on them, but the real selling point is always raw processing power to those who know.

Why spend £350 on the best card now, which isnt properly utilised, when in a year it will be £100 tops, and only then just really starting to use the stuff that aint used now?
Its what killed 3Dfx more than anything else, they forgot what made them great (raw power) and assumed that people had enough raw power and needed more clever stuff. Nvidia came along and blew 3dfx out of the water with processing power. 3dfx are no more.

The P4 will be very fast when the processing speeds are scaled up to what they should be. Its not the chip now that it will be in the future, its got a very long pipeline, and that needs high MHz to be really powerful. The logic prediction unit is VERY good and this helps to cover the weaknesses of the chip as it is now.

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Old Apr 11, 2001 | 05:16 PM
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nice pc dave

i'm still chugging along with a p3 667 !

with that sort of pc you should be joining us for a game of Counter-Strike on a tuesday nite.

would be very educational to hear you tell us many fps and how well it renders the complex graphical intricacies and such like from such a high spec system - oh and you might even enjoy the 'game', not that you use such a high spec pc for such trivialities

i've just inherited a 19" dell monitor as the outlaws are Dell people and he's just bought a new dell 19" flat panel !

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Old Apr 11, 2001 | 05:39 PM
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I recently got a P4 specific compiler from Compaq. OK, its Fortran, but that is my work. Code complied with this runs a 'bit' quicker than the same code on the P3 or below compiler. Surprised ? I was a bit. (When I say 'bit', I actually mean, fugging huge difference, approx. 35% increase).

Most of the benchmarks programs used at the moment do not take into account the P4 architecture hence they always come out slower than the P3/Athlons etc.

Word is that Beta2 of Windows XP (any day now) will have the necessary low level code to deal with the P4. So we will just have to wait and see.

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Old Apr 11, 2001 | 06:50 PM
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That's what you're spending your money on

Why not opt for a Matrox Millenium G450 or similar & have 2x Flat Panel screens on your desk - cooler still
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Old Apr 11, 2001 | 08:57 PM
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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:<HR>Originally posted by Puff The Magic Wagon!:
<B>Dave

That's what you're spending your money on

Why not opt for a Matrox Millenium G450 or similar & have 2x Flat Panel screens on your desk - cooler still [/quote]

PTMW!
Nudge nudge oh, I getcha

The PC doesn't have to be paid for until April 2002 - that's when they divvy up my account at work - that's why I didn't spend the money on something else now mate

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Old Apr 11, 2001 | 11:13 PM
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Did the 17" flat panel display make up a large chunk of the £3k price tag?
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Old Apr 11, 2001 | 11:51 PM
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sounds a nice machine, shame it hasn't got a decent operating system, SuSE 7.1 would be much happier than that windoze crap
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Old Apr 12, 2001 | 08:10 AM
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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:<HR>Originally posted by AWD:
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Did the 17" flat panel display make up a large chunk of the £3k price tag?[/quote]

+ £680 over a 19" CRT mate

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Old Apr 12, 2001 | 08:11 AM
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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:<HR>Originally posted by mattski:
<B>sounds a nice machine, shame it hasn't got a decent operating system, SuSE 7.1 would be much happier than that windoze crap [/quote]


You may well be right mate.....but I don't think Freeserve/PhotoSuite and so on support it........

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