Subaru Forester crash on M40
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Subaru Forester crash on M40
The driver and a passenger in the Subaru Forester, both in their 80s
https://news.sky.com/story/m40-crash...-lane-11527193
https://news.sky.com/story/m40-crash...-lane-11527193
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My worst fear when driving is coming across an idiot driving the wrong way on the motorway!
I've never understood how anyone can get it wrong? Motorway junctions are pretty f-ing obvious!
I'd like to blame the phenomenon on old people and use it for grounds for OAPs to be regularly tested and encouraged to hang up their keys, but sadly there seems to be idiots of all ages get this wrong. Its about time they also included motorway training as part of the required driver education in the UK.
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My worst fear when driving is coming across an idiot driving the wrong way on the motorway!
I've never understood how anyone can get it wrong? Motorway junctions are pretty f-ing obvious!
I'd like to blame the phenomenon on old people and use it for grounds for OAPs to be regularly tested and encouraged to hang up their keys, but sadly there seems to be idiots of all ages get this wrong. Its about time they also included motorway training as part of the required driver education in the UK.
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I know, they're everywhere! Austria used to be really bad, they improved all the motorway junction signs a few years ago with big stop hands for the wrong way which has helped a lot, yet there are still idiots of all ages that manage to go the wrong way! How do these f-ktards ever get a driving license!
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My worst fear when driving is coming across an idiot driving the wrong way on the motorway!
I've never understood how anyone can get it wrong? Motorway junctions are pretty f-ing obvious!
I'd like to blame the phenomenon on old people and use it for grounds for OAPs to be regularly tested and encouraged to hang up their keys, but sadly there seems to be idiots of all ages get this wrong. Its about time they also included motorway training as part of the required driver education in the UK.
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Or maybe I'm just over-thinking it all
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First of all you feel for those that have lost their lives in this accident, especially the innocent person that got hit by the caravan and car.
I spend a lot of time on the motorways with my job, I just don't get how anyone can end up going the wrong way down a motorway, if you tried to go down the entry slip road the wrong way it would look wrong for a start as they are shaped against you. Secondly once your going down the slip road you would clearly see the traffic is coming towards you at a fast rate of knots, even if you got tol the bottom of the slip road and the motorway itself you only need half a brain cell to work out that you've gone the wrong way.
What an earth would then process anyone to try to get on the motorway going in the wrong direction against the traffic ?
Apparently the driver of the caravan was in his 80's, I've always said that people should be re-tested for a car licence at 55 or 60 as too many pensioners are dangerous, not only to themselves but to their passengers and other road users. They may have originally passed their test in their teens or twenties, they are not the same standard of driver 40 years or so later and their reactions, brain and fitness isn't the same either.
Also people shouldn't be allowed to buy a caravan without going on a course learning how to drive one, they should include the price of a course in the price of the caravan, and only when they've passed a course to show they are competent can they collect the caravan.
Just my thoughts, rant over.
I spend a lot of time on the motorways with my job, I just don't get how anyone can end up going the wrong way down a motorway, if you tried to go down the entry slip road the wrong way it would look wrong for a start as they are shaped against you. Secondly once your going down the slip road you would clearly see the traffic is coming towards you at a fast rate of knots, even if you got tol the bottom of the slip road and the motorway itself you only need half a brain cell to work out that you've gone the wrong way.
What an earth would then process anyone to try to get on the motorway going in the wrong direction against the traffic ?
Apparently the driver of the caravan was in his 80's, I've always said that people should be re-tested for a car licence at 55 or 60 as too many pensioners are dangerous, not only to themselves but to their passengers and other road users. They may have originally passed their test in their teens or twenties, they are not the same standard of driver 40 years or so later and their reactions, brain and fitness isn't the same either.
Also people shouldn't be allowed to buy a caravan without going on a course learning how to drive one, they should include the price of a course in the price of the caravan, and only when they've passed a course to show they are competent can they collect the caravan.
Just my thoughts, rant over.
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First of all you feel for those that have lost their lives in this accident, especially the innocent person that got hit by the caravan and car.
I spend a lot of time on the motorways with my job, I just don't get how anyone can end up going the wrong way down a motorway, if you tried to go down the entry slip road the wrong way it would look wrong for a start as they are shaped against you. Secondly once your going down the slip road you would clearly see the traffic is coming towards you at a fast rate of knots, even if you got tol the bottom of the slip road and the motorway itself you only need half a brain cell to work out that you've gone the wrong way.
What an earth would then process anyone to try to get on the motorway going in the wrong direction against the traffic ?
Apparently the driver of the caravan was in his 80's, I've always said that people should be re-tested for a car licence at 55 or 60 as too many pensioners are dangerous, not only to themselves but to their passengers and other road users. They may have originally passed their test in their teens or twenties, they are not the same standard of driver 40 years or so later and their reactions, brain and fitness isn't the same either.
Also people shouldn't be allowed to buy a caravan without going on a course learning how to drive one, they should include the price of a course in the price of the caravan, and only when they've passed a course to show they are competent can they collect the caravan.
Just my thoughts, rant over.
I spend a lot of time on the motorways with my job, I just don't get how anyone can end up going the wrong way down a motorway, if you tried to go down the entry slip road the wrong way it would look wrong for a start as they are shaped against you. Secondly once your going down the slip road you would clearly see the traffic is coming towards you at a fast rate of knots, even if you got tol the bottom of the slip road and the motorway itself you only need half a brain cell to work out that you've gone the wrong way.
What an earth would then process anyone to try to get on the motorway going in the wrong direction against the traffic ?
Apparently the driver of the caravan was in his 80's, I've always said that people should be re-tested for a car licence at 55 or 60 as too many pensioners are dangerous, not only to themselves but to their passengers and other road users. They may have originally passed their test in their teens or twenties, they are not the same standard of driver 40 years or so later and their reactions, brain and fitness isn't the same either.
Also people shouldn't be allowed to buy a caravan without going on a course learning how to drive one, they should include the price of a course in the price of the caravan, and only when they've passed a course to show they are competent can they collect the caravan.
Just my thoughts, rant over.
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I bet you any money they had stopped at Oxford Services on the M40 - these services are not either side of the motorway as they commonly are in the UK - you have to cross several islands to get back onto the motorway depending on the way you are going, and it can be confusing - especially if you don't fully understand the signage for motorways - you would not believe the amount of people who do not understand even basic north, south, east, west on road signs - they can't picture in their mind what direction they are travelling in.
I bet he he didn't cross across the islands - and just saw one entrance on the first island, thought that wasn't his entrance, carried on around the island and went down the next entry - wrong way down the motorway...
I've seen people reversing back up these slip roads because they've got on going the wrong direction at these Services - not going against the flow - just not realised the general direction they are heading is wrong!
I'm willing to put money on this is what happened. They really need to make the signage much clearer at these Services.
Tragic case all round
I bet he he didn't cross across the islands - and just saw one entrance on the first island, thought that wasn't his entrance, carried on around the island and went down the next entry - wrong way down the motorway...
I've seen people reversing back up these slip roads because they've got on going the wrong direction at these Services - not going against the flow - just not realised the general direction they are heading is wrong!
I'm willing to put money on this is what happened. They really need to make the signage much clearer at these Services.
Tragic case all round
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I bet you any money they had stopped at Oxford Services on the M40 - these services are not either side of the motorway as they commonly are in the UK - you have to cross several islands to get back onto the motorway depending on the way you are going, and it can be confusing - especially if you don't fully understand the signage for motorways - you would not believe the amount of people who do not understand even basic north, south, east, west on road signs - they can't picture in their mind what direction they are travelling in.
I bet he he didn't cross across the islands - and just saw one entrance on the first island, thought that wasn't his entrance, carried on around the island and went down the next entry - wrong way down the motorway...
I've seen people reversing back up these slip roads because they've got on going the wrong direction at these Services - not going against the flow - just not realised the general direction they are heading is wrong!
I'm willing to put money on this is what happened. They really need to make the signage much clearer at these Services.
Tragic case all round
I bet he he didn't cross across the islands - and just saw one entrance on the first island, thought that wasn't his entrance, carried on around the island and went down the next entry - wrong way down the motorway...
I've seen people reversing back up these slip roads because they've got on going the wrong direction at these Services - not going against the flow - just not realised the general direction they are heading is wrong!
I'm willing to put money on this is what happened. They really need to make the signage much clearer at these Services.
Tragic case all round
this was the exact thing people people were saying on the radio this morning.
saying they have seen endless people do it.
it was not a foreign car, they had driven for 7 yes 7 miles the wrong way and had previously had an accident the week before.
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we had to steal my fathers car from him when his driving became so bad (82 & dementia) as there's no way of stopping him driving - doctor told him to stop driving, dvla and police wouldn't get involved. Serious gap in the law here.
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