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08 July 2016, 05:07 AM
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https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...-shooting-live
Not quite surprising.
Given the way that guy was pinned down and offed point blank by officers
Not quite surprising.
Given the way that guy was pinned down and offed point blank by officers
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08 July 2016, 07:09 AM
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https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...-shooting-live
Not quite surprising.
Given the way that guy was pinned down and offed point blank by
officers
Not quite surprising.
Given the way that guy was pinned down and offed point blank by
officers
One suspect says there are bombs all over Dallas....again, looking to take it out on innocent people to make a point.
09 July 2016, 11:38 AM
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09 July 2016, 11:49 AM
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The best comment on the gun situation I have seen recently went something like this...
If a kid in a school playground is hitting the others with a stick, what do you do? Take the stick away or give every kid a stick?
09 July 2016, 12:14 PM
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America is heading for major civil unrest. Add guns and Trump into that and you've got a fairly scarey few years ahead.
09 July 2016, 07:38 PM
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yes, if its possible to remove guns, that might work but you will never remove guns in America because there are so many, so that is not an option. its either some people have guns (including that bad guys) or more good people have guns (any bad guy will get a gun very easily even if gun control gets tighter). the only way to stop a bad guy with a gun, is a good guy with a gun.
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09 July 2016, 09:21 PM
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yes, if its possible to remove guns, that might work but you will never remove guns in America because there are so many, so that is not an option. its either some people have guns (including that bad guys) or more good people have guns (any bad guy will get a gun very easily even if gun control gets tighter). the only way to stop a bad guy with a gun, is a good guy with a gun.
09 July 2016, 11:05 PM
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Just what is wrong people? Just what is it with racism? What on earth is wrong with this world ? :-(
10 July 2016, 12:59 AM
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10 July 2016, 03:41 AM
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and lets not forget this was a protest against the police or whatever...
10 July 2016, 03:53 AM
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It doesn't really make sense does it mate, from a legal perspective
Say some one did have a gun , and saw this guy from obscure position after he's fired one shot
He shoots the shooter dead with one shot....
Are you high btw ?? Or a Trumper
Say some one did have a gun , and saw this guy from obscure position after he's fired one shot
He shoots the shooter dead with one shot....
Are you high btw ?? Or a Trumper
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10 July 2016, 04:08 AM
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This Dallas shooting is one case. not all cases are like this..
10 July 2016, 05:28 AM
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Hi,
The Dallas shooter was wearing advanced body armour. A policeman took a shot at him - but the bullet bounced off. He then executed the policeman and ran off!
Cheers
Steve
The Dallas shooter was wearing advanced body armour. A policeman took a shot at him - but the bullet bounced off. He then executed the policeman and ran off!
Cheers
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10 July 2016, 08:35 AM
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Giving everyone a gun is like giving every government a nuke. The Russians don't fire on the Americans because of the acknowledged consequences. But in a ground level situation like this, a MAD scenario simply doesn't work.There is plainly no effective deterrent in everyone having weapons otherwise situations like this wouldn't keep happening.
10 July 2016, 10:40 AM
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You have to stop somewhere.
10 July 2016, 10:55 AM
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Well if you're going to look at it that way you might as well say all the 'Viking' nations, all the Italians, and every Frenchman are fair game for us to vent our wrath on for past atrocities against our nation. Likewise every nation we have visited our culture and will upon would think any British national to be fair game. The sins of the fathers can't be a justification for random murder.
You have to stop somewhere.
You have to stop somewhere.
Racism is still very prevalent in the USA, I have lots of family there on both my side and my wifes, her brother is married to a Yank all be it a New Yorker where it's supposed to be quite cosmopolitan, yet I was quite shocked by the blatant racism expressed by some of her friends and family, right in front of me too.
10 July 2016, 11:15 AM
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The fact that ongoing racism means people resort to the use of guns merely illustrates what I said about the MAD scenario. It doesn't work. Everyone has a gun and everyone os prepared to use them presumably. How is that a deterrent?
10 July 2016, 11:49 AM
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You're missing the point.
Giving everyone a gun is like giving every government a nuke. The Russians don't fire on the Americans because of the acknowledged consequences. But in a ground level situation like this, a MAD scenario simply doesn't work.There is plainly no effective deterrent in everyone having weapons otherwise situations like this wouldn't keep happening.
Giving everyone a gun is like giving every government a nuke. The Russians don't fire on the Americans because of the acknowledged consequences. But in a ground level situation like this, a MAD scenario simply doesn't work.There is plainly no effective deterrent in everyone having weapons otherwise situations like this wouldn't keep happening.
10 July 2016, 07:27 PM
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More like monkey see, monkey do.
Some interesting stats from the Washington Post.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/natio...79a_story.html
Some interesting stats from the Washington Post.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/natio...79a_story.html
10 July 2016, 08:59 PM
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More like monkey see, monkey do.
Some interesting stats from the Washington Post.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/natio...79a_story.html
Some interesting stats from the Washington Post.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/natio...79a_story.html
11 July 2016, 05:21 PM
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It's all very sad here at the moment and social media and the media themselves are really not helping.
My partner knew one of the cops involved and she is providing mental care to anyone affected by this.
There were people in the protest who were open carrying and they actually handed their guns to the cops to avoid being accidentally thought of as the aggressors.
There is no proof that arming everyone would mean that gun crime would be reduced, quite the opposite.
It's sad that a few cops who are completely idiotic and unfit for the jobs they are in are creating such problems. It's also unfair to say that every person shot by a cop was part of a racial hatred thing.
It's all just f@cking nuts and all this needs to stop - how? I have no idea.
My partner knew one of the cops involved and she is providing mental care to anyone affected by this.
There were people in the protest who were open carrying and they actually handed their guns to the cops to avoid being accidentally thought of as the aggressors.
There is no proof that arming everyone would mean that gun crime would be reduced, quite the opposite.
It's sad that a few cops who are completely idiotic and unfit for the jobs they are in are creating such problems. It's also unfair to say that every person shot by a cop was part of a racial hatred thing.
It's all just f@cking nuts and all this needs to stop - how? I have no idea.
11 July 2016, 05:30 PM
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It's all very sad here at the moment and social media and the media themselves are really not helping.
My partner knew one of the cops involved and she is providing mental care to anyone affected by this.
There were people in the protest who were open carrying and they actually handed their guns to the cops to avoid being accidentally thought of as the aggressors.
There is no proof that arming everyone would mean that gun crime would be reduced, quite the opposite.
It's sad that a few cops who are completely idiotic and unfit for the jobs they are in are creating such problems. It's also unfair to say that every person shot by a cop was part of a racial hatred thing.
It's all just f@cking nuts and all this needs to stop - how? I have no idea.
My partner knew one of the cops involved and she is providing mental care to anyone affected by this.
There were people in the protest who were open carrying and they actually handed their guns to the cops to avoid being accidentally thought of as the aggressors.
There is no proof that arming everyone would mean that gun crime would be reduced, quite the opposite.
It's sad that a few cops who are completely idiotic and unfit for the jobs they are in are creating such problems. It's also unfair to say that every person shot by a cop was part of a racial hatred thing.
It's all just f@cking nuts and all this needs to stop - how? I have no idea.
The UK selects its firearms officers with great care whereas in the USA the police are routinely armed. Unfortunately not everyone has the cool head required to handle firearms safely and sensibly.
11 July 2016, 05:40 PM
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I may be being slightly naive but, if a cop with a gun came towards me , and told me to obey an order, Out of common sense I would do as told,
Surely it's a no brainer ?
If you got nothing to hide or worry about why take the chance ?
Surely it's a no brainer ?
If you got nothing to hide or worry about why take the chance ?