LSherratt

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Just heard on BBC Breakfast. It's an Egypy Air plane with around 55 passengers on board. Looks like Egypt is going down the swanny. I holiday'd there in 2008 and it was fantastic but I'd definitely be cautious about visiting again.

mrtheedge2u2

Sorry to be pendantic but since when is an Airbus A320 also called a "jumbo"?

But yeah, not good news.

urban

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You've got to feel for them though, their whole tourist trade is destroyed.

bangshift

That whole continent is fooked imho.

fat-thomas

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I doubt it's just "crashed" into the sea

bangshift

Diddnt Russia shoot the last one down? Flight MH17? Wonder who or what shot this one down.

Ste333

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I suppose you can only assume that some kind of external influence took the plane down. If there was a technical failure, surely the plane would still have radio contact, broadcast its position whilst still in the air etc.

albob

probably a bit far out to sea to have beeen shot down

bangshift

Missiles can travel a fair distance .

Maybe from some internal influence? Pillot suicide? Hijack? You never really know with these things.

matt-c

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According to flightrader24 there was no altitude loss or erratic flight path it just disappeared from radar. Bomb seems most likely.

bangshift

^^

alcazar

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Whatever it is, it's awful.

We really need to bring in capital punishment for any terrorist offences...and I mean ANY!

And I'm usually against capital punishment.

bangshift

There are certain things and acts which justify capital punishment;

Terrorism, Murder, Child Grooming, Rapists amongst a few.

dpb

Capital punishment for would be martyrs ?

bangshift

Killed by the "enemy" and failing your mission, no honor there.

bangshift

Perhaps we should throw them in a cage, lock it and lower them into a pool whilst filming it. Maybe we should attach several explosives around multiple people's necks and blow it. Maybe we should get a short knife and start sawing the heads off.

Oh wait, thats there tactics.

Wanna know mine?

Tidgy

no last one was blown up by isis

bangshift

madscoob

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female firing squad ultimate dishonour for them to be killed by a female, oh and they don't get to go upstairs according to their beliefs

bangshift

^^ Sounds good to me!

donny andi

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Should of been done years ago

hodgy0_2

this is a really good series of BBC documentaries by a journalist called Adam Curtis

it traces the rise of Al Qaeda - and by extension ISIS (Islamic extremism) - with special reference to Egypt

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x20su5f_the-power-of-nightmares-1-the-rise-of-the-politics-of-fear-bbc-2004_news
I will only post the link to the first one

you can find the others

but he has also done the excellent "Bitter Lake"

again if you have not seen these, they are well worth watching

Devildog

MH 17 was shot down by a Russian made missile

Are you thinking of MH370?

Tidgy

no, one came down after mh17

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metrojet_Flight_9268

Dr Hu

Tunisia's holiday industry fooked as well - their minister was appealing for the UK to change its 'essential travel only' policy - apparently holiday bookings are down something 90% so far this year - and Turkeys is down 40%.....

We went to Mexico - which was nice saw a few there who said they had gone to Mexico as there was limited choice to go anywhere safely in Europe!!

Torquemada

I'm off to Turkey later in the year. Really looking forward to that!

The Egypt flight thing is a shame, not seen a huge amount on tv here about it, which is no surprise.

markjmd

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I've got to ask - if you're located in Texas most of the year, as your user info states, and which has no shortage of hot weather itself, what's the attraction of going to Turkey for a summer holiday?

GWJ

It's full of Turkish Delight

markjmd

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That may well be, but I thought Old Dixie had its fair share of that too.

Torquemada

very true. I'm going there because my Texan girlfriend used to live in and teach English in Turkey, so she has lots of friends there. I've never been to Turkey. So a nice holiday and reunion/intro to m'GF's friends will be cool.

It is bloody hot n nice here though, about to have a mostly 40c+ summer, so Turkey might be a little bit of respite?