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Old 18 April 2016, 01:39 PM
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Default Just rolled into the workshop....

If anyone is familiar with the meme.

Car came in for a routine service, customer said it "may" need brake pads.

Erm, from the wheels being caked in rust I quickly realised it may need more than just pads...









I think he may find that the brakes would work better if the discs were attached to the bell....Brings a whole new meaning to floating disc brakes

And its only a Monday...normally this stuff happens on a Friday/Saturday
Old 18 April 2016, 01:42 PM
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holyyyyyy Crap
Old 18 April 2016, 01:46 PM
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Blimey, nearly fell off my chair laughing.
Old 18 April 2016, 01:50 PM
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The whole disc is separated from hub ?
Old 18 April 2016, 01:51 PM
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A vented disc , on the rear ??
Old 18 April 2016, 02:01 PM
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HOLY COW!
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That's not good.
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I suppose if it's sat SORN for the last 5 years .....

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Is the gentle man of pikey extraction
Or just recently lost all his senses
Old 18 April 2016, 03:07 PM
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When you say it "just rolled into the work shop".......

was that intentional or part of the issue
Old 18 April 2016, 03:37 PM
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I give you the disks are fubared but may be a bit more life in the pads as they haven't been doing much
Old 18 April 2016, 04:40 PM
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The worrying part is they share the same roads as the rest of us.
Old 18 April 2016, 05:13 PM
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I remember seeing that on my sisters old XR2 when i was only about 10/11, my da was none too pleased when he discovered she said it had vibrating brakes for about 6mths!
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Originally Posted by dpb
I suppose if it's sat SORN for the last 5 years .....
Originally Posted by dpb
Is the gentle man of pikey extraction
Or just recently lost all his senses
Nope...done 12000miles since it was last MOT'd 11 months ago of which it had an advisory for the rear pads being worn

He doesn't seem like a pikey, appears to be quite "well to do", his missus's car was one of the reasons why I nearly quit after the new year (Range Rover Sport with knackered anti-roll hydraulics).


Baby seat in the back....I can just picture a 4yr old in the back saying "Daddy why is the car making funny noises"?

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Originally Posted by MOTORS S GT
The worrying part is they share the same roads as the rest of us.
Good job the front brakes do most of the work, eh?


...although the front pads only have a few mm left.....
Old 18 April 2016, 09:44 PM
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Those pictures make me wince !
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Thats scary stuff.
How can a set of discs go so bad after a relatively short space of time since last MOT.
The garage that did the MOT should be closed down. Makes me glad we use official government MOT test centres here in N.I.
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How does that happen? Corrosion?
Old 19 April 2016, 01:45 PM
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Originally Posted by urban
Thats scary stuff.
How can a set of discs go so bad after a relatively short space of time since last MOT.
The garage that did the MOT should be closed down. Makes me glad we use official government MOT test centres here in N.I.

WE did the MOT

At the time it was an advisory, it couldn't be failed as on the day of the test it was roadworthy...VOSA only cares about the car's condition on the actual day of the test, not a few months down the line. So its down to the owner to get it looked at...he did nothing and drove it for 11months and 12000miles.

He also skipped a service (it was overdue last year), so thats 24000 miles and 2 years with only a visual inspection.

This is a case of driven to destruction. Annoyingly a MOT test cant stop that unless it was actually binding or pretty much on the metal (if pads are visible) at the time of inspection. If the MOT date was a few months later it probably would have failed, so its a case of bad timing, but imagine if the UK/EU government had its way and made MOTs 2 yearly like the rest of Europe?
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Originally Posted by tony de wonderful
How does that happen? Corrosion?


Basically they are TRW style rear calipers...same as the rear of Mini or a Golf, just bigger. The pins which the caliper slides on are notorious for siezing and sticking on the rubber bushes they pass through. When this happens it can easily eat a brake pad down to the metal in a 1000miles.

The discs probably sheared off the bell due to the combination heat and uneven forces as the piston was acting on one side, but as the pins are stuck, no force is applied on the other side so the disc is literally being bent during braking. Its been driven for a conderable distance with the discs sheared off.

What baffles me is there would be sparks comming from the rear when driving, it wouldn't smell too good after parking up and it would have made noises, and it certainly would have made a couple of nasty thumps or bangs when the discs broke away.
Old 19 April 2016, 01:48 PM
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I had this happen to me years ago, on an old P6 Rover 3500, the piston in the rear caliper was on a thread, that moved the pad to the disc, each time the hand brake was applied. It happened after the car had been standing for a few weeks, the pads were knackered, and rust had built up on the discs, (inboard Discs you could not see them), and they were in contact with the disc all the time.
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de dion axle ? I had p6 v8 as well in mid eighties ,for few months, got shot for 50quid
Old 19 April 2016, 02:08 PM
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yes, that's the one,
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I think people who are members of a car forum like this take for granted that people who drive have a basic grasp and understanding about how cars work and how much maintanence and attention they require..... this isnt true and unfortunately we have to share the roads with them.

Non car people (who are probably the majority) just want something they can A to B in and dont want all that faff of understanding the difference between theyre big end and theyre elbow.

Funnyest one for me working in a garage was a woman who came in asking for a new dipstick as hers was "worn out and wouldnt reach the oil anymore"..... points for wanting to check the oil in the first place though i spose.
Old 19 April 2016, 02:19 PM
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many years ago, in 70s there was an elderly Lady who used to come into the garage where I had a job serving petrol, (I was still in school) complaining that here new mini, was not running well, and drank petrol, took a long time to work out why, then we realised, she used to pull the choke out and hang her handbag on it......
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I can't see too much wrong that a wire brush and a bit of WD40 wouldn't cure.
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Best one I have personally seen, & its going back a bit, was a Ford Granada 2.8 that would not start, got there & it was seized solid, it was a very cold spell & it had no anti freeze in it, & had split the block, the woman who owned it, when told it had no antifreeze, she said it has, its in the boot, she thought you just added it to thaw it out, not to prevent it.
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Took my RRS into MOT station just after Christmas & day before I was due to drive to Ireland...

Obviously you're meant to stomp on the brakes to test efficiency & blokes did exactly that. Car passed no problems.

Drove home & pedal a bit spongy. OK, it'll sort. A bit later I noticed a big puddle under the car - checked and its brake fluid

Dropped back round the MOT place and they put it on a ramp and checked - one of the rear brake pipes had corroded and when they applied (a lot of) pressure, it split

As far as they were concerned, car had passed its MOT and even if it had been checked 10 mins later and it would have failed, that's next year's problem.

Trying to get a new pipe fitted on New Year's Eve was a non-starter so had to borrow the g/friend's car for the drive over...
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That looks like an expensive fix - new disks, pads, calipers possibly...?
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The poor driver comes in for pads and the garage tries to rip him off for disks as well


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