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Old Feb 25, 2016 | 08:43 PM
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My goodness it looked beautiful on its maiden run, following restoration, from King's Cross to York today.
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Old Feb 25, 2016 | 08:45 PM
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Old Feb 25, 2016 | 09:08 PM
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Pity about the idiots trespassing on the East Coast mainline in Lincolnshire. They apparently brought all trains to a standstill, 15 minute knock-on delays.

That sort of thing could bring steam hauled rail tours to an end.
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Old Feb 25, 2016 | 10:11 PM
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Not bad for a very old girl and now wait for the anti pollution army.
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Old Feb 25, 2016 | 10:46 PM
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There is more personality in that one magnificent steam engine than in all the diesel engines lumped together. A sensible way to spend £4million? Absolutely not, a triumph of obsession over commonsense, but still truly wonderful!
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Old Feb 25, 2016 | 10:52 PM
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Ooh I don't know about that; There is a diesel with personality... a Deltic on full song is something to behold. But then that is a unique design of Diesel engine that is totally different to almost every other diesel engine in the world.

That said, it's good to see it out and about
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Old Feb 26, 2016 | 05:39 AM
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Hi,
Around 15 years ago I was driving on M54 towards Shrewsbury and I noticed crowds of people on the bridges.
I then saw the Flying Scotsman on the back of a low loader - it looked amazing as I slowly drove by!
I believe it was on its way to Llangollen at that time.
Saw TV coverage yesterday and wished I was one of the passengers!!
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I hope they all got arrested and the fines that go with it!

Caused delays all over the country their stupidity
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Old Feb 26, 2016 | 09:23 AM
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I hope they all got arrested and the fines that go with it!

Caused delays all over the country their stupidity

I guess your just letting of steam.
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Old Feb 26, 2016 | 10:48 AM
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Originally Posted by JGlanzaV
I hope they all got arrested and the fines that go with it!

Caused delays all over the country their stupidity
I quite agree. They spoil it for others and the powers that be may decide that mainline steam is a thing of the past.
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Old Feb 26, 2016 | 05:44 PM
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The BBC did make me smile talking about it's 'traditional green livery'
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Old Feb 26, 2016 | 05:47 PM
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Biggest issue with it is so much of it has been replaced it's not really te same engine anymore
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Old Feb 26, 2016 | 09:21 PM
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Ooh I don't know about that; There is a diesel with personality... a Deltic on full song is something to behold. But then that is a unique design of Diesel engine that is totally different to almost every other diesel engine in the world.

That said, it's good to see it out and about
Totally agree Ali. The Deltic gave off an absolutely awesome sound. I used to hear them accelerating out of Doncaster and I was ten miles away. That and the Flying Scotsman, well, what can I say
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Old Feb 27, 2016 | 07:59 AM
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I quite agree. They spoil it for others and the powers that be may decide that mainline steam is a thing of the past.
And with the higher speeds, more injuries will be sustained if an accident happens
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Old Feb 27, 2016 | 08:07 AM
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And with the higher speeds, more injuries will be sustained if an accident happens
There won't be injuries if a 60mph train hits you. Lol
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Old Feb 27, 2016 | 08:29 AM
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There was something on the news where a fan set up his camera to capture the passing of the Flying Scotsman. As it past, a Virgin train went the other way and totally obscured his view.

On hearing this, Richard Branson has apologised and gave him a free trip to America
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Biggest issue with it is so much of it has been replaced it's not really te same engine anymore
When any loco went to main works for what was known as a heavy general overhaul, loads of parts would be changed, including boiler, firebox, motion parts, buffers, controls etc etc etc. Even the tenders got swapped about...when Mallard was preserved they found the tender it originally had for it's record-breaking run, and gave it back. It had been running with a corridor tender for years.

Doncaster works had a pool of boilers, since the boiler repair took far longer than the rest, so boilers were swapped with one from the pool, and the loco's own boiler went into the pool once repaired. It meant that a loco requiring re-boilering could be on the works for a week instead of a month.

The only things that stayed the same at HGO were the loco frames...and there are even instances of those being changed on GWR locos...quite recently, at a major overhaul, one of the preserved "Hall" class locos was found to have the frames from an entirely different loco...it now carries that name.

Next time you go to the NRM, take a close look at the motion parts (valvegear) on Mallard. Some of it is stamped with the numbers of entirely different locos.

When the other two that went to America and Canada (60008 "Dwight D Eisenhower, and 60010 "Dominion of Canada"), were being prepared for preservation at Crewe works, a third member of the class, 60026 "Miles Beevor" was cannibalised for parts that were in better condition than those on the two locos being preserved.

Preservation is no different.

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Old Feb 27, 2016 | 11:40 AM
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Originally Posted by CrisPDuk
The BBC did make me smile talking about it's 'traditional green livery'
Well it did carry green when built...just a different shade. LOL

But what makes me cringe is the media calling it a train, and referring to the locomotive "The Flying Scotsman" and "The Mallard". There is no "The" on either name.
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Old Feb 27, 2016 | 12:35 PM
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I vividly remember when I've been with Isaac to the NRM on numerous occasions, seeing the Flying Scotsman in the workshops being overhauled. I'd love to work on something like that.

Indeed there's the trench exhibit now at the NRM where you can walk under a train beneath the rails and have a look about. I can't help but get oily every time so I take tissues now
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Originally Posted by Tidgy
Biggest issue with it is so much of it has been replaced it's not really te same engine anymore
Trigger's (RIP) broom.
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Old Feb 27, 2016 | 04:07 PM
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I remember seeing it at Kidderminster during a steam gala. It just occurred to me that it was well over 20years ago
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Old Feb 27, 2016 | 05:21 PM
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Originally Posted by chocolate_o_brian
I vividly remember when I've been with Isaac to the NRM on numerous occasions, seeing the Flying Scotsman in the workshops being overhauled. I'd love to work on something like that.

Indeed there's the trench exhibit now at the NRM where you can walk under a train beneath the rails and have a look about. I can't help but get oily every time so I take tissues now
They are called pits, Andy. Trenches are for warfare.
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Old Feb 27, 2016 | 08:11 PM
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Originally Posted by joz8968
Trigger's (RIP) broom.
yep lol
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Old Feb 27, 2016 | 08:12 PM
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Originally Posted by alcazar
When any loco went to main works for what was known as a heavy general overhaul, loads of parts would be changed, including boiler, firebox, motion parts, buffers, controls etc etc etc. Even the tenders got swapped about...when Mallard was preserved they found the tender it originally had for it's record-breaking run, and gave it back. It had been running with a corridor tender for years.

Doncaster works had a pool of boilers, since the boiler repair took far longer than the rest, so boilers were swapped with one from the pool, and the loco's own boiler went into the pool once repaired. It meant that a loco requiring re-boilering could be on the works for a week instead of a month.

The only things that stayed the same at HGO were the loco frames...and there are even instances of those being changed on GWR locos...quite recently, at a major overhaul, one of the preserved "Hall" class locos was found to have the frames from an entirely different loco...it now carries that name.

Next time you go to the NRM, take a close look at the motion parts (valvegear) on Mallard. Some of it is stamped with the numbers of entirely different locos.

When the other two that went to America and Canada (60008 "Dwight D Eisenhower, and 60010 "Dominion of Canada"), were being prepared for preservation at Crewe works, a third member of the class, 60026 "Miles Beevor" was cannibalised for parts that were in better condition than those on the two locos being preserved.

Preservation is no different.
always the way
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Another vote for the Deltic here

The three best sounding Engines in the world, well to my ears they are

6.2 AMG V8
Napier Engine from the Deltic
Merlin from a Spit

Gorgeous looking locomotive, like you wrx300 I'd hear them roaring through the Hadley tunnels on the ECML at full chat, it get's your attention !!

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When they were introduced, they were called "Bombers" by spotters at Doncaster etc, due to the sound of their engines.
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Loco fwieeends.

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Truly magnificent.


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Originally Posted by joz8968
Loco fwieeends.

Snigger - that made me laugh out loud...... hahahahaha!
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