ok probably being to clever now i know how to post piccies. This was the few days between getting the new one and selling the old. How i wish the new one sounded as good as the old. I think the new is generally a lot bigger car, all round. the sti has now done 2000 miles and is getting quicker all the time, its now got some 18" oz prodrives love the car and didn't have any other considerations when getting the car, Subaru all the way. I wish i could have afforded to keep the old one too!