I have got myself a set of P1 fogs but the blub seems to be a normal bulb not a "fog light" bulb so the connector doesnt fit.

So my question is can i cut off old connector and solder on a different one? is it just to connect the bulb holder to wiring loom or is there anything special with it?

cheers

 

Oh wow! Where to start?

First and most important, P1 lights are DRIVING lights, NOT foglights.
As such they must, by law, be connected and wired so that they ONLY come on with main beams, and extinguish once dips are selected.
Fogs are wired so as to be on only when headlights are on and are on a separate switch. That's both illegal and dangerous for driving lights.

Secondly: that question becomes immaterial once you fit driving lights. You CANNOT use the existing fog wiring, so tape it up out of the way.

You then need to wire the driving lights correctly.
To do so, you need a standard on/off 4-terminal relay.
Wire a lead from whichever wire at the HEADLIGHT is live when main beam is selected, using a Scotchlok, or similar, to relay terminal 85.
Take another wire from relay terminal 86 to a suitable earth.
Now bring a suitably thick wire from battery +ve to relay terminal 30, via an inline BLADE fuse.
And finally take wires from relay terminal 87 to each driving light, and one from each driving light back to a suitable earth.

That should do it: they should come on ONLY when you select main beam, and go off if you select dip.

 

Ahh right ok.

But, in theory, could you just solder in a new connector to connect them to the fog light circuit?

Not that I would, just curious.

 

Yes, or use a male to plug into the existing one, wrap it in tape and terminate the other end of a short length of wire with the correct connector. That way, you can go back.

 

oh right, cheers.

that seems much simpler, shame i cant do that. as they driving lights not fog lights. shame

 

Alcazar, you might know. Have wired my fog lights with a relay so they come on with main beam as I'd rather have them as driving lamps, but as you know the standard Subaru lamps are a bit pants in terms of light output.

I had a close look at the lense and it seems like a fairly standard reflective bowl, but there's a very big shield over the bulb, I assume to reduce and direct the light output to make them effective as fog lamps and to reduce dazzle when shined into dense fog.

Don't want to spend a fortune on proper driving lamps so was wondering if anyone's tried modifying these lamps to increase the light output. I guess if I heated them up slightly and separated the glass lense I could remove these shields, and some 100w bulbs with fresh wiring from the battery would be a big improvement?

Anyone tried it and had any success? If not I might have a go and see how it works out

 

Modifying the fog light wiring to work as driving lights...............

P1 driving lights

 

Sorry to rain on your parade, but what you suggest won't work, even if you CAN get them apart...and I don't know of anyone who has.

The reason is that the shield is only to cut down on scatter. The light from the bulb can ONLY get out of the light via the reflector, not straight out, so it is more controlled.

Unfortunately for your idea, the pattern of the beam is done by the glass lens on early lights with fluted lenses, or by the multi-faceted reflector if they are crystal lights.

Sorry.

 

Do it right: you know it makes sense and it makes the lights so much easier to use.

 

Fog lights are handier than the driving lights where I live, really noticed how much I used them now I don't have any.

 

Give over.......fog lights are useless in FOG, let alone for every day driving.

Unless you are one of those "look at me" merchants?

 

Properly set up fog lights, as in aimed low to light the road up are much more useful.

"Unless you are one of those "look at me" merchants?" - No, I would use them in the fog, because they are FOG lights.

 

OK, whatever.

You'd be in a VERY small minority on here then......

 

You seam very knowledgeable alcazar. I have a blobeye and as many will say on here the light are ****. Where is the best place to get driving lamps and do you know if all Newage fog/driving lights have the same fitment? ie bugeye will fit blobeye bumper.

Sorry to hijack your thread btw Nick.

 

Driving lamps: I'm not sure who does what, any more. You could look on ebay, they often come up. If you are feeling flush, there is a set of hella 1000FF HID's on there at £499. I'd say well worth the money, but they are dear IMHO.
They do work well, however: https://www.scoobynet.com/technical-...-lamp-kit.html
Post 26, for pics of mine and a comparison.

Likewise, I'm unsure about fitments between Bugeye and later cars. I think they were the same up to about 2005.

A good mate has a set of Halogen 1000FF's, with an HID aftermarket kit in them, cost less than half the real thing, but very, very good.

There's these two: http://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_nk...at=0&_from=R40
they would need brackets, easy enough to make, plus wiring, about £10.
A decent HID upgrade is about £50 too.

 

Cheers for the reply. Yeah I saw the ones at £499 and nearly chocked lol

Think ill go Halogen and get HID's as well.

Cheers for your help.

 

Fog lights are "useful" up to around 10mph when their practical range gives out.

You can see far more with dip and/or main beam than fog lights.

You are far better off with driving lights.