M9G

Hi

Just bought a w reg 2.0 sport and it came with two keys and a fob which is black and is rectangular, the front is covered in a blue sticker with subaru logo on it, it has one big black button and a red led light. I thought this was for remote locking but it doesnt seem to do anything. I notice in the roof of the car there is a black receiver so i assume the two are linked.

Is it a remote locking fob or alarm fob please? if it is a remote fob then any idea how to programme it?

Regards

M9G

This is it....

joey_turbo

iTrader: (26)

It the remote locking/alarm setting fob.

Its not connected to the the black thing you have seen, as its Radio Frequency, not infrared.

Its easy to reprogram IF you know the PIN for the control pad in the glovebox.

M9G

Ah right thanks, so any idea what the little black square thing in the roof is? its between the two little lights.

Keypad in the glovebox, hmmmmm there isnt one, any suggestions?

M9G

is this what i need....

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/SUBARU-SIG...item3cc699746c

So do i take it these are wired into the car? so in theory it could possibly be in the car

M9G

where is the keypad plugged into as i think i will need to find that first to see if there is anything plugged into it and then possible trace back to where the keypad maybe hidden

M9G

please where is the alarm box situated so i can trace wire back to keypad if its in the car somewhere.

I did see a black box behind the steering colum up under the dash with a large white connector and a smaller i think 4 wire connector, is this it? if so it looks like the loom off the large connector joins into the main loom and the smaller connector wires go up into the steering colum.

I'm thinking now maybe the keyfob i have is not for the car and that it should have an infra-red remote as there seems to be a reciever in the roof between the two map lights.

Whats rekon?

Don Clark

Try looking in the coin tray by drivers right knee, keypad may be in there.


More useful links..........

http://www.scoobypedia.co.uk/index.p...ectricalSystem

M9G

Na wasnt in there, had to take that out to look at the fuses earlier, remember you told me where the fuses were lol cheers

I just wonder why i would have an infra red sensor in between the map lights

AJF

iTrader: (1)

To see if it's connected to central locking remove door card and look for a slave motor
Should look like this
http://www.in-car-stuff.com/shop/vol...tor-p-523.html

M9G

Ok thanks but not sure that this will tell me if i should have a keypad or where the alarm box is, or if a have an infra red alarm system, cheers any way

AJF

iTrader: (1)

Sigma alarms don't need the keypad to work
Look in the engine bay and see what model siren you have should have a silver label with model number
Once found follow lead from siren back to bulk head undo lower dash panel on that side of car and trace wires from there

M9G

Good idea thanks

Don Clark

PM sent

M9G

Thats really handy thanks for that, i'm starting to think i dont have this sigma system

I dont have keypad
I dont have ultra-sound sensors
I have a red LED built into the dash clocks with a picture of a key around the led
I have a square black thing in between the map lights in the roof (almost like its infra-red sensor)

But the fob i have is a sigma one - wierd!!!!

I need to find out whats going on as insurance company wants proof of immobilizer and it would be nice to have remote locking

M9G

No siren in engine bay.

Was a scooby made with a factory fitted infrared system? as i say I have a picture of a key on the dash clocks with a red led in it that flashes when ignition not on and I have what looks to be an infrared reciever in the roof inbetween the two map lights.

STEVEBOXER

The red flashing key is telling you the car is immobilised. This is standard on scoobys, there is a chip in the car key that matches the signal on your car so it recognises the correct car key to prevent theft!
I hope you have a spare car key too as if you only have one and lose it then your in trouble!!

STEVEBOXER

Hi maybe, it had a Subaru alarm as well as standard immobiliser but it was removed because of a fault and the only thing remaining is the key fob.
Your car is immobilised as the red key is flashing on dash.

Don Clark

Dash "key" is the OEM immobiliser indication for transponder fitted in the key.

Early examples of the Sigma M30 were ditched by some car owners as being ineffective (suffered from Radio lockout) and Aftermarket systems fitted. (not sure which MY (model year) they started fitting the Sigma at the import centre)

I had a Cobra system fitted to my MY97 Impreza

The central locking system was activated by use of the drivers side door key to lock the complete car.

The slave motor previously mentioned was added to the alarm systems to recreate this action and make it "keyless" from the fob.

What "actual " year of manufacture (MY) is your sport ??

10th character of the VIN number is the indicator

W - 1998
X - 1999
Y - 2000

M9G

Hi its a Y so 2000

Central locking all works fine off the key in the drivers door

So any idea what the little black square thing that looks like an infrared reciever in the roof is? This is what i'm trying to find out as its possibly a different standard remote system

Don Clark

Doesn't remind me of anything that was OEM in a classic.


Pictures would be good

AJF

iTrader: (1)

Got a pic of the infra red bit in the roof

M9G

I havent but could get one tomorrow but it is just a black cube type thing in between the two map lights, rekon probably about 10mm x 10mm square by about 5mm high

M9G

look what i found.... I have for deffo box number 2 that he is on about, I dont have the infrared remote as i have the sigma radio frequency one but maybe this is one step closer to solving this, if this is the system i have any ideas who could help me get the IR remote for it?

http://www.rs25.com/forums/f13/t1219...ess-entry.html

Don Clark

The systems he is referring to are the OEM keyless entry system and OEM immobiliser which are totally separate to the CAT1 alarm system fitted by Subaru UK at point of entry, although they are integrated so that the car is alarmed and locked from the one fob. Any button/s on the actual key become defunct.

M9G

But could mine be one that has come in with the OEM but without the cat1? also his system is an IR system not RF

Don Clark

Well, found this spec chart and it "appears" that the Cat 1 Alarm/Immobiliser for the MY00 Sport was "optional".

http://www.iwoc.co.uk/impspec2.html

However it still seems strange that you have a Subaru Sigma alarm fob, if you don't have the alarm.

No info in the cars paperwork?? You could always ask Subaru UK if an alarm was originally fitted.

These are the relevant sections from the MY01 Impreza Manual. (UK MY99/00 ones difficult to obtain). Yours will be similar but not necessarily the same but should give you an idea of what is there.

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/donald....yless_immb.pdf

M9G

Well i've checked and i have the two white connectors in the footwell suggested on that site I gave link to, followed instructions but didnt do anything which i suspected as I dont think keyfob is right one.

Here is picture of the what i believe an ir receiver in the roof......

Don Clark

Listed as

Switch-key less entry, 88035AC100


Item 3 here.........

http://opposedforces.com/parts/impre...llustration_2/


Looking at this you should have a transmitter item7 for keyless...............

http://opposedforces.com/parts/impre...llustration_2/

M9G

Your a star, thankyou So it pretty much looks like I have the wrong keyfob and need to get an IR one? any ideas how i go about getting one? sorry this is the first scooby i've had so dont know anything.