Saint AAI

Will the standard classic Impreza wiring be able to cope with 100W headlights?

urban

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I'm not sure you can still get these?

Anyway, regardless though - I had a set on my MY02 STI.
They were first class, I know thats not a classic, but I was assured by people on here that the wiring would cope and it did.

I tried getting these for my 05 STI and was told they were discontinued.

Aztec Performance Ltd

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Fit SuperHIDs and don't look back.

Been there and done that.

Feedback:

https://www.scoobynet.com/group-buys...group-buy.html

alcazar

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DON'T fit HID's to a classic, if it's using H4 bulbs.

You might as well look back: main beam will be rubbish anyway

Personally, I'd not fit 100W bulbs, but try a pair of hHlfords 90% uprated, (on BOGOF at the moment), they only draw the same current as a 60W but produce the light output of a 110W.
Plus they are optically accurate, so, unlike H4 HID's, ALL the light goes where it's meant to.........at least as far as it can with a classic Impreza headlight

Other good buys are Osram Nightbreakers, Philips Vision Plus.

Avoid PIAA, they are over hyped expensive.

Aztec Performance Ltd

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The feedback from H4 SuperHID users would disagree

stiler83

100W will be fine but don't go any higher.

They are available from Powerbulbs.com
Philips Rally H4 90/100W from Power Bulbs | Free Worldwide Delivery
H4 (472) - Car Bulbs - Headlight Bulbs from Power Bulbs

though I would recommend the Philips X-Treme Power H4
http://www.powerbulbs.com/product_detail.asp?prod=43

alcazar

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Yep, and they are probably all making the same msitake you do: more light = BETTER lights, regardless of where it;'s going, who it's dazzling etc.

Plus the mainbeams are poor..........

alcazar

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Yep, and they are probably all making the same msitake you do: more light = BETTER lights, regardless of where it's going, who it's dazzling etc.

Plus the mainbeams are poor..........

Aztec Performance Ltd

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We'll have to agree to disagree.

I've had them on my classic for years and they are the best upgrade you can make without changing/altering the headlamps. The feedback also reflects this and there is no glare issues with our kits

alcazar

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By all means..so long as the punters realise that ONE of us is SELLING these things, and the other isn't

Forgotten about the set I fitted, which both me and the owner agree are rubbish?

harvey

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I uprated the wiring on one car along with relays to run rally bulbs but then found that had been unnecessary as plus 60% GE gave better focus and longer penetration. Since then on another vehicle I fitted a set of these Philips rally bulbs and I was very impressed even over the GE plus 60%.
The important thing is not the amount of light that the headlights give out but the beam pattern and focus. The HIDs are good on dipped and probably a sight better than the H4 standard Subaru but they are not as good on full beam which is where I need maximum vision and the reason for this is the scatter and lack of focus. If you try the 100w rally or indeed the 90% Halfords I doubt you will ever look back unless you only drive around town on dipped beam.

Saint AAI

I'd already bought the bulbs from Powerbulbs, just thought I'd ask before fitting, but fitted them anyway before checking back here . I can see now at night, they work great and are loads better than the ones I had in. I still want HID's even though the Phillips Rally H4's work fine, but am waiting for BOB'5 to finish the retrofitted projector kits.

53

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What ones did you have before ?

alcazar

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Best way.

Saint AAI

I think I had these ones in. Pretty sure it was those, completely useless, felt like I was driving round with just the sidelights on.

53

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^ Thanks for the link. I have the Philips X-Treme Power H4 so much better than the OEM ones it's like night and day I was tempted to go for the Rally but not sure of the benefit. Also I run my side lights most of the time so this load may have consequences for my old 1995 wiring ?

Saint AAI

Think I'll go for the X-Treme Power ones next if my Rally ones burn out before a HID projector kit is available. I didn't see them when I started searching for bulbs last week, found the Rally ones and bought them without looking any further. Phillips give both sets a 5 star rating for performance as does the powerbulbs site, however the Rally ones score low on how long they last and are not road legal (not that I'm bothered).

harvey

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The Phillips Rally 100/90, competition use only, leave all the HID aftermarket I have ever tried, completely in the shade as far as full beam distance vision is concerned. Because the focus is so good they also outperform 130 and 150W H4 bulbs.

53

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Harvey have you run the Phillips Rally 100/90 on your V3 without any wiring overload or heat issues ? Only jumping from my MY06 Sti HID headlamped car into the V2 wagon I think I have gone blind lol.

harvey

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I have fitted a set of 100/90 to a P1 and the driver said the difference was incredible and I have fitted another set to my own STi 3 Wagon and in both cases we are on OE wiring and as far as I can tell there are no issues. After 15 minutes use I felt the wiring on my own car and it was not noticably heating up. When I make a long trip in the dark and use full beam most of the time I will stop and investigate the wiring further but I have no reasons for concern. When I have used cheaper Rally bulbs of 130w on the STi 3 there did not appear to be heat issues and while the light was very bright the focus was poor and these were therefore not an alternative. This is the same reason I took off the HIDs. Nice bright light but no focus on main beam.
I am imprressed enough with the 100/90 Rally to have another set for the WRX Wagon which is just undergoing a turbo transplant.
Unfortunately I have a stock of GE Plus 60 so one set has already gone on the Astra GTE Red Top and again the improvement over standard was noticable. At the same time I tried some 130 Rally from a local motor factors specialising in rally bits but again the focus was crap so the Plus 60% were visibly better than either standard or the 130s.
Fit a set of Philips 100/90 Rally and I think you will be similarly impressed. Please report back.

53

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Cheers Harvey

handsome rob

So would it be ok to use HID for the dipped lights and normal uprated bulbs for main beam on my blobeye sti, i just really want the bright white light you get with HID s and have given up trying with nomal bulbs ,so would this work well ? , would like an opinion as im fed up of wasting money on stuff .

harvey

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Rob: If it helps you I have only used the Philips Rally H4 100/90 on a Classic and that was a revelation. Big improvement in dip and noticable improvement on full beam even although I had previously been using General Electric Plus 60% which were better than a whole host of bulbs that we tried including expensive PIAA which were rubbish, the best offerings from Osram and Philips at the time and some rally 130 and 150 watt that were let down because of the poor focus. The wiring on the car had been uprated and I was using relays to give these heavier current bulbs a chance.
I was going to try a set of HID H7 on the dip of my Wife's Vectra SRi 150 D with a set of H7 Rally 80w on main beam but changing the bulbs on one side involves removing the headlight so I am simply fitting the H7 Rally on both dip and full beam and will report back when this is done. At £29 a set with 5w sidelight bulbs thrown in this is far cheaper than experimenting with H7 HIDs.

Aztec Performance Ltd

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A lot of people fit HID for both dipped and main beam on your model. You could start by just fitting dipped beam, but chances are you'll want to do the main beam also once you see the difference. Easier to fit them both at the same time.

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alcazar

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And double the profit for BOB

Andy Murdoch

Some simple electrics formula, P=I x V ie Pwr = Current x Voltage, therefore 60w/12v = 5amps, 100/12 = 8.33amps. If the wiring is not rated for this then it will overload and burnout (possibly with disasterous results). The increase in current can also burn out relay contacts. I don't know what the cable gauge is on the lighting circuit but I would check this out before sticking uprated 100w bulbs.

Technically they are also illegal with the likelihood that you are getting flashed by irate on coming traffic.

However, aftermarket HID are also illegal as the VOSA legislation states that vehicles with HID's must be fitted with auto levelling headlight units and washwipe systems although I don't know how strictly this is enforced by MOT stations.

Hope this helps.

eggy790

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how hard would it be on my 02 bugeye to uprate the wiring so it can take these rally bulbs?

alcazar

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Easy enough: one or two relays, preferably with fuses incorporated, a couple of headlight connectors, some terminals and covers for 'em, thicker and thinner wire, and an hour or so of your time.

eggy790

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cool, seems easy enough

another varient.. how hard is it fix them when they get burnt out? lol

Dave Y

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sorry to jump in,would any of the above bulbs improve the lighting on my 04 wrx,would the wiring be up to it?