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Old 02 July 2014, 01:16 PM
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Default Quick release Steering wheel kits advice

I recently bought a 340mm Momo steering wheel with boss from a friend and would like to fit it with a quick release kit. I am not bothered about indicators cancelling but would like the horn button to work. Also I need to retain the clockspring for DDCD sensor purposes, will this be an issue?
Not sure which is suitable or better, any advice appreciated

There are a few kits I have seen on ebay etc:

1) Sparco £45

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2513210006...84.m1423.l2648

2) NRG £87

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2712710520...84.m1423.l2648

3) D1Spec £51

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1912087154...84.m1423.l2648

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Had a quick release on my MR2 for about a day. Bought one of those 'Sparco' jobbies, but they're just cheap generic kits from China.

Didn't like it due to:
a) It had a tiny amount of play in it
b) It moved the steering wheel too far away from the dash - meaning I couldn't reach any of the stalks with just a finger flick.

Just something to bear in mind, but try to get the thinnest kit you can find. I've heard good things about the NRG kits though - much better build quality.
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Old 02 July 2014, 02:30 PM
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Thanks mate, good info.
Was also thinking NRG but may have to get their slim hub kit too instead of using the Momo hub kit I currently have.
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Old 02 July 2014, 02:33 PM
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Yeah, MOMO collapsible boss' are quite large (what I had) so if you can find the correct NRG kit that's probably worth doing.
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I have the NRG Gen.2 quick release. Incredible quality, works a dream - absolutely no play in it whatsoever. Plus, it's dual-drilled, so excepts pretty much all modern 6x70mm and 6x74mm wheels.

My main reason for choosing it over the 'motorsport-esque' Sparco one, is that you can lock the separate NRG anti-theft cover over the quick release, for added security!

Whatever you do, make sure you buy the genuine NRG item, and not those cheapo, far east knock-off pattern versions that proliferate eBay!


My actual boss is the regular OMP one, which is fine for me using a flat steering wheel; you can just about get your fingers to the stalks when holding the wheel. But if that boss (or Simoni, MOMO, etc.) is too long, you can also get the short, matching NRG boss, which is about an inch shorter IIRC...

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Old 02 July 2014, 03:56 PM
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I have been using a NRG Gen. 2.5 quick release with a NRG short boss for over an year now, tracked the car a few times, occasional street drive and some trips when needed and no issues, no play, no unintentional release of the wheel so far :-).

But a few comments about the quick release + short boss NRG 'combo': at the time I bought them there were no NRG short boss that fit the STi v6 steering column (I think they still don't have one) and I had to buy a WRX one. The end of the steering column is a bit different between the models (same thread pattern to fit the boss, but the STi column after the threads is thicker than the WRX one so the short boss won't slide to the correct position). I had to remove some material from the inside of the short boss, as well as its back part/part that faces the steering column to get a 100% fit.

I also had to use a metal contact to link the back of the short boss to the horn wiring and make the horn work, and buy a separate resistor to cancel the Air Bag light. These parts didn't come with the NRG short boss.

Despite those NRG short boss related issue, as I said I couldn't find a problem in the NRG quick release itself so far.

btw: a friend and I thought that going 'fancy' would change something and he bought a Works Bell Short boss + quick release combo specific for the STi v6 (his car model also) and ended up having the same fitting problems I had with the short boss described above.

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Thanks so far, very useful feedback.
If I go with the NRG one will the clockspring with dccd plugs etc still be retained and also will the steering wheel be too close to my body with this?
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Old 02 July 2014, 05:01 PM
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As said above you will need a resistor for your airbag light . . I too have an nrg and can't rate it highly enough
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Old 02 July 2014, 05:23 PM
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I don't know about the clockspring with DCCD plugs... but regarding the distance, those pictures are not very good but may help:

When NRG advertises 'short boss' you'd better believe, they are really short:



With the amount of material I removed, I was able to completely slide the boss into the steering column. You can also see in the picture the back part of the quick release bolted to the short hub.

This is the wheel in place:





(don't worry about the parts missing in the picture. I'm currently working on the car and had to remove them, but everything fits in place without any issues)

If you have a short boss, a quick release and a FLAT style steering wheel, there will be very little to no difference in the distance of the wheel to your body or to the levers compared to the stock steergin wheel, at least in the NRG short hub + 2.5 gen quick release combo as the one I have the distance changed only by a few mm, nothing to worry about.

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Old 02 July 2014, 06:36 PM
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Thank you Marcio for your help & advice
I think I will need to buy the NRG short hub rather than using my Momo hub.
That then adds up in cost & may then be better off getting this below which comes as a whole kit?

http://www.rhdjapan.com/works-bell-r...k-release.html
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Old 08 July 2014, 10:29 AM
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Doesn't look like it is a kit in the link you sent, only the quick release from what I understood.

You still need the boss to install it, could be the momo one you have if you don't bother about the steering wheel distance to your body / indicator/wiper stalks or a short boss if distance is an issue.

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Old 12 July 2014, 01:55 AM
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My advice would be to buy the best you can afford.I bought a Chinese ebay special & it was absolute shizer,I then spent £150 on a Sabelt one which is great,but I do have an OMP WRC dished steering wheel that makes it pretty far back.btw those ones pictured are not genuine Sparco.I believe those Bell ones are pretty good also Lifeline too.
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Old 19 July 2014, 03:43 PM
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Ricky I have a works bell kit on mine and it's beautifully engineered and has zero play in it. Also comes with the airbag light delete resistor.
Expensive but worth the money IMO.

Call Playskool Motorsport. That's where I sourced mine.
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Old 20 July 2014, 12:54 PM
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Originally Posted by frayz View Post
Ricky I have a works bell kit on mine and it's beautifully engineered and has zero play in it. Also comes with the airbag light delete resistor.
Expensive but worth the money IMO.

Call Playskool Motorsport. That's where I sourced mine.
+1 Such a good kit to buy.
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Ive ordered cheap ones in the past and also ordered NRG ones from Ebay and it turned out to be fake..... Terrible quality.
I currently run a Driftworks QR boss which locks VERY solid, weighs a ton, and is a quality bit of kit. No play whatsoever, unlike some of the others. I also have a HKB boss which cancels indicators, retains the clock spring etc etc and comes with little wiring loom with resister, with push fit connectors to cancel the airbag light. Extremely good bit of kit. Coupled with my Personal 330mm wheel its nice and close and quality!
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Old 28 August 2014, 01:47 PM
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Does anyone have a fitting guide for this set up? I have the NRG Short Boss the 2.5 Quick release hub kit and a dished steering wheel, I have never fitted anything like this before and connot figure out the horn wiring with the metal rings? I also have the resister for the air bag.

Any help would be greatly appreciated
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Seen this one mate but he doesnt wire up the horn? I can put it all together is the wiring thats catching me out.
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Try this one.SJ.
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Originally Posted by Mr Blobby View Post
+1 Such a good kit to buy.
and they are great people o deal with! had a issue with my one had they fixed it in a few days
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Originally Posted by marcio View Post
I don't know about the clockspring with DCCD plugs... but regarding the distance, those pictures are not very good but may help:

When NRG advertises 'short boss' you'd better believe, they are really short:



With the amount of material I removed, I was able to completely slide the boss into the steering column. You can also see in the picture the back part of the quick release bolted to the short hub.

This is the wheel in place:





(don't worry about the parts missing in the picture. I'm currently working on the car and had to remove them, but everything fits in place without any issues)

If you have a short boss, a quick release and a FLAT style steering wheel, there will be very little to no difference in the distance of the wheel to your body or to the levers compared to the stock steergin wheel, at least in the NRG short hub + 2.5 gen quick release combo as the one I have the distance changed only by a few mm, nothing to worry about.

Cheers,
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Hi marcio

I have this same set did u figure out a way of keeping the automatic indicator cancel ?? Or do u have to cancel manually ?

Cheers
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Originally Posted by crazyspeedfreakz View Post
Hi marcio

I have this same set did u figure out a way of keeping the automatic indicator cancel ?? Or do u have to cancel manually ?

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Is there any way to get the auto cancel for indicators with this kit?

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Never did figure out a way of keeping the auto cancel, sorry, I just cancel by hand now :/
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Originally Posted by crazyspeedfreakz View Post
Never did figure out a way of keeping the auto cancel, sorry, I just cancel by hand now :/
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HKB boss FTW!
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Originally Posted by joz8968 View Post
HKB boss FTW!
But my NRG one is the dogs danglies and wouldn't change it,I've learnt to drive without making any turns now so don't really need indicators
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Do you have the NRG short boss, then?

Because if not, I'd flog on the regular NRG boss and replace with the HKB. You won't regret it.


(BTW, I also have the NRG 2.5 quick release on top on the HKB - best of ALL worlds and sh¡t lol. You know it makes sense. )

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It's the same as the boss in post #9 but in red.
I've lived with manual cancel for over a year now so am pretty much used to it,as long as I can take my steering wheel to bed with me then that's the main thing,auto cancel would be a bonus,I'll take a look at the HKB ones.
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Originally Posted by ossett2k2
It's the same as the boss in post #9 but in red.
Yeah, their short ('Italian driver, long reach') boss lol


- I know what you mean, though. You do get used to (put up with) it.

But I always really hankered after it being back to normal. It was only after accidentally stumbling upon a thread that I realised the HKB would give me everything I needed.

I just happened to retain my clockspring (in case I want to return it all back to stock in future). Which was helpful.

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