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Old 13 December 2007, 10:05 AM
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We have been selling the KSport big brake kits for an while now with great sucess. Theyre a very popular kit and sell well. We have a large batch on order that I can run a group buy on to get the product out into the market place so word can start to spread.

What do people think of KSport brakes? A couple of quotes:

Originally Posted by jd5217
I have the 356mm 8 pot fronts fitted to my STi8, cannot fault them.
Originally Posted by billyblobeyes
Got the k sport kit a couple of months ago and cant recommend it enough. I have the 356mm 8 pots front and 356mm 6 pots rear. The peddle is great with modulation in and out, no on or off.Pissball to fit as well.
Originally Posted by dmnbrm
i fitted the k-sport calipers 3 months ago and have found them to be fantastic,there half the price of other kits and got deliverd 2 days later,fitted in about 1 hour,lots of feel,they look good.cant recomend them enough.

I have 17" oz superleggra 2 running 215/40/17 tyres,i measured before i bought them and i thought the 356mm disc would be too tight,the 330mm disc fits perfect behing the 17" wheels and i have had no clearance issues at all.ive had other scoobys that i had alcon big brake kit on,and on my 2nd scooby i had a tarox kit.
all i can say is the k-sport outshines them all,and it cost me half the money.
also the orange calipers look wicked.
Originally Posted by j900ase
Just fitted them to my RB320, i have had many sets of AP,s on many cars. But thought i would give these a try, so far so good they fit well and disc run out was 0.01mm on both sides , my last set of AP,s was 0.02. bedding in still at moment but initial feel is very good with excellent pedal feel.
Magazine feature highlighting benefit of KSport 356mm kit on S14 200SX

Right click and save as to download feature from Jap Performance magazine

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8 pot front caliper





12 pot front caliper





6 pot rear caliper





Complete kits









Fitted pic



The kits

The KSport kits comprise:
  • 2x KSport lightweight aluminium calipers
  • 2x KSport rotors
  • 2x KSport bells
  • 2x KSport brackets
  • 2x KSport braided brake lines
  • Set of brake pads
  • KSport mounting kit
  • Fitting guide

Our website is here:

KSport website

Details of performance

The kits feature heavy duty grooved race rotors. We have found over our years of testing that rotor choice is critical. It took us many months of on track testing and working with KSport to come up with kits that we were happy with.

We introduced many tweaks to the calipers, rotors and even bell design. We (as in Apex) have spent in excess of £10,000 testing the brakes in our 592bhp Nissan Skyline in conjunction with Apex's professional driver, Tim Marshall. This is just the money spent testing with one of our vehicles, collectively we use 10+ cars to gather data and exprience from.

The kits are very much tried, tested and proven and after selling hundreds of kits we have only ever had one reported customer rotor failure on an early kit fitted to a heavy, powerful car with virtually no bedding in and then run on one of the fastest and harshest braking circuits in the UK. The rotors have been altered since then to improve reliability even further.

We have never had a reported leaking caliper, no failed seals, zero issues with pistons sticking etc. To date they are proven to be a true fit and forget product

What vehicles have we been testing on?

Unlike other sellers we believe in running and extensively testing what we sell, not on the road but on track for maximum stress and strain. We work closely with a number of cars monitoring performance, usage etc and gathering feedback. To this end we have collectively done 70+ track days at just about every track in the UK along with multiple European venues including Sweden, Germany and Belgium.

Apex Test S14a - 356mm front kit
Team Apex S13 #1 - 390+bhp, competition winning, 330mm front kit
Team Apex S13 #2 - 280bhp, 330mm front kit
Team Apex EDC and track Skyline - 592bhp, professional driver, 330mm front then 356mm front then 356mm all round
Team Apex Subaru Impreza Type RA - 330bhp, 330mm front kit
Richard Henry Motorsport Impreza #1 - 330bhp, 330mm front kit
Richard Henry Motorsport Impreza #2 - 330bhp, 356mm front kit
H-Dev S13 - 500bhp, 2006 Time Attack winning car, 330mm front kit
Team DCMS S14 - 440bhp, 330mm front kit

KSport 330mm front vs Brembo Skyline set up

Back to back testing has highlighted that the KSport 330mm kit provides superior feel and stopping power to the Skyline GTR Brembo front set up, very similar to the Impreza Brembo set up. DCMS have two S14s, one a road car, the other a track car. The track car came fitted with Brembo front brakes whilst the road car runs KSport 330mm set up. Both car run a Z32 rear brake set up. After back to back testing DCMS came to the conclusion that the KSport front kit was superior in performance to the Brembo so the kits were swapped with the track car being giving maximum performance with the KSport kit.

What discounts are being offered?

The following prices include the discount and includes KSport street pads. Pad upgrade options will follow.

The kits will all come with BLACK calipers with the latest design logo! Unless, that is, you want a rear kit to match an existing front set up in which case the appropriate caliper will be provided.

Retail price, prices INCLUDE vat!

Front:

330mm 8 pot £855
356mm 8 pot £999
380mm 12 pot £1550

Rear:

330mm 6 pot £855
356mm 6 pot £999

If we get 5+ people then the following prices will be offered:

Front:

330mm 8 pot £684
356mm 8 pot £799
380mm 12 pot £1240

Rear:

330mm 6 pot £684
356mm 6 pot £799

Taking a front and rear kit? Enjoy free carriage on the whole order! (to Uk addresses only)

Pad upgrades

If you want to do more than sprited back road driving then we can offer the following brake pad upgrades. The price is what needs adding to the kit price to change from the default KSport Street front pads to the required pads:

Front 8 pot pads

KSport Sport +£34
KSport Race +£70
Ferodo DS2500 +£70
Ferodo DS3000 +£100

Rear 6 pot pads

KSport Sport +£29
KSport Race +£49
Ferodo DS2500 +£49
Ferodo DS3000 +£65

When are the kits due?

The kits have been ordered, manufactured and shipping is being arranged now. The boats due late Febuary.

Sorting payment

We will need a 10% deposit up front and the remainder of the payment 2 weeks before the boat docks.

We will contact you before taking final payment so please make sure the contact number you give us is one that we CAN contact you on during trading hours!

Give us a ring to order on 01274 683633 Please do NOT just stick your name on this thread, that will NOT be counted a an order. Orders are only confirmed when you have phoned with payment details.

1: Mooey
2: Peanuts
3: Peanuts
4: Ash1
5: Beef-on-the-bone
6: Cookstar
7: Evander
8: Reano

Apex is closed from miday Sat 22nd December and re-opens on Thursday 3rd January. If youd like to get involved in this buy then drop me a pm with your full name and contact number and we will give you a shout when we reopen. If my pm box is full then just fire me an email to brenATapexperformance.co.uk

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Old 13 December 2007, 11:09 AM
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I have the 356mm 8 pot fronts fitted to my STi8, cannot fault them.
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Old 13 December 2007, 11:40 AM
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Do the 358mm fit under 18's ok?
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Old 13 December 2007, 11:49 AM
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It depends on which 18s but generally yes, they fit with no problems.
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Originally Posted by jd5217
I have the 356mm 8 pot fronts fitted to my STi8, cannot fault them.
Did you notice a big improvement over the Brembos ?
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Old 13 December 2007, 12:55 PM
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Originally Posted by VJ_STi
Did you notice a big improvement over the Brembos ?
massive difference, dont cook these brakes.
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Old 13 December 2007, 05:12 PM
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The prices of these brakes seem to good to be true!!!!!
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Old 13 December 2007, 05:38 PM
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Maybe other brakes are just overpriced....... ??????????
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At christmas too.

I'm still trying to get the money together for the coilovers. Think i've missed that boat, now you post this brake p0rn thread.

Think everyone will get nuts & oranges for xmas.
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Theyre priced to sell on high volume rather than large margins. KSport keep costs down buy limiting variables between their products so all 8 pot calipers are the same, pads are the same, 330mm front rotors are the same etc. They can then concentrate on buying a small number of parts in very high volume so achieving very efficient enonomies of scale. They sell to their distributers on the same volume over margin philosophy and its working for them.

Theyve just had a custom new factory built, you should see it, its VERY impressive. Theyre making money and ploughing it into the products and on increasing efficiency to enable them to drive down costs.

We have NEVER had a customer come back who wasnt happy with their brake purchase, not ONE. We havent had one single caliper failure, not one sticking piston, not one leaking seal.

Out of all the kits weve sold we have had one rotor failure and that was on a high power car with virtually no bedding in that was taken straight out on the brake killer circuit, Snetterton. KSport have moved the rotor quality and design design on a few more steps since then to improve reliability even further

KSport even balanced the rotors again in house. Theyre balanced bu the rotor manufacturers but KSport then build the assembly up with bells and rebalance to ensure optimum performance. Run out levels of 0.01mm are typical of KSport set ups.

The saying "If it seems too good to be true then chance are it is" does NOT apply to this offer, this is a very genuine bargain and I can say, hand on my heart, that you will NOT be dissapointed

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Originally Posted by GazTheHat
At christmas too.

I'm still trying to get the money together for the coilovers. Think i've missed that boat, now you post this brake p0rn thread.

Think everyone will get nuts & oranges for xmas.
We are still offering coilovers at the discounted price if you want a set We only need a deposit on the brakes so you could always buy the coilovers now then the brakes after Christmas. Dont tell your missis I said that though!
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Nice wrtie up Bren ,.... it will most likely Ksport I get on mine and February sounds like a good time ...

Just need to sort out what im after but I will be after front and rear, need to sort out that fax to ya aswell


Cheers chris
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No worries, we can extend a greater discount than normal to traders if they order from the same shipment
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Will sort it out soon!
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Bren, I'm running the scoobyclinic 6 pots up front and want to upgrade the rears.

I was originally going for brembos but the k-sports have definitely caught my eye. Do you think i'd have any probs running the clinic fronts with the k-sport rears??

cheers
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will the rears fit all modals??
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Our rears will compliment the Scooby Clinic fronts

We can supply rears for all modesl.
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Originally Posted by bren@apex
No worries, we can extend a greater discount than normal to traders if they order from the same shipment
Does that count for traders who already have an account set up with yourselves?
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am interested in a set of these, how would you compare them against the scoobyclinic 6 pots you had on your scoob?
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Yes, of course. But the offer applies specifically to this one sea order, not usual airfreight orders and not subsequent sea orders.
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Originally Posted by Ozzy_B
am interested in a set of these, how would you compare them against the scoobyclinic 6 pots you had on your scoob?
I didnt really do many miles with the Scooby Clinic brakes so cant give any meaningful comparison. Ive no doubt that the Scooby Clinic brakes would be upto the job but I have no reason to believe theyre superior or inferior to the KSport.
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Originally Posted by bren@apex
Yes, of course. But the offer applies specifically to this one sea order, not usual airfreight orders and not subsequent sea orders.
Spoke to Louise this afternoon, will be in touch on Monday morning
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Old 14 December 2007, 06:01 PM
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is that +vat??

did i miss it in your long write up?,sorry if i did
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if its including vat ,ill take a set of front and back

could you put a price up if i wanted to pick up ?? as i dont need postage as im only up the road

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will 8 pots be ok whilst only having brembo 2 pots on the back, and as above is vat included in the prices
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yeah its ok, but like me i have the alcons on the front and std 2pots on the rear with std pads and discs.

to me it feels like the rear brakes just need a bit more bite to them to keep the car balanced under heavy braking into bends, or even a bag of wet sand in the boot


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Hmm I hope it is including vat otherwise that's a bit misleading! How here can claim the vat back on stuff they buy for their private car?!

I've got 18" PFF7 replicas, would I be better off getting the 330mm discs?
Also, what would this do to the brake balance of the car? I've only got a WRX so the rears aren't even brembos!
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I'm 99.9% certain the prices are inclusive of VAT...
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prices include VAT, been down to the unit today myself and put my order on file.
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thats a wicked price then

bren could you give me a price for both sets front and back
i dont need postage as ill pick up

also if i was also going to get some supention off you what would the total be ,,,im wanting eq to the t25 set up

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