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Old May 18, 2013 | 03:01 PM
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Which are the more desirable? V3 underbucket heads or V4 overbucket?
Has anyone used either and if so at what power?
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Old May 18, 2013 | 08:21 PM
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V3 & V4 are the same, both run the shim in the top of the retainer with a bucket on top.

Best setup is to use newer age buckets with the shim incorporated with the bucket (1 piece).

To run these in V3/4 heads you have to modify & maybe look at top retainer to make sure shim of bucket doesnt foul retainer.

Is this the same build you contacted me on years ago?
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Old May 18, 2013 | 08:35 PM
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V3 & V4 are the same, both run the shim in the top of the retainer with a bucket on top.

Best setup is to use newer age buckets with the shim incorporated with the bucket (1 piece).

To run these in V3/4 heads you have to modify & maybe look at top retainer to make sure shim of bucket doesnt foul retainer.

Is this the same build you contacted me on years ago?
Lol yes.

I thought one had the shim sitting under, the other on top? Is the cam profile the same?
What power have you seen from these heads Primeiro?

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Old May 19, 2013 | 12:58 AM
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cam profiles are different between v3 and 4, iirc v3 are slightly more agressive
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Old May 19, 2013 | 08:08 PM
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Originally Posted by stedee
cam profiles are different between v3 and 4, iirc v3 are slightly more agressive
Any idea of expectations (powerwise) between the 2?
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Old May 19, 2013 | 09:18 PM
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Hardly anything, I think ppl have run 600+ with either
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Old May 20, 2013 | 09:34 AM
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Are you concerned your engine power is going to exceed the capabilities of the heads!!!!

Glad your still @it and yes most of the time a project can mean years!

Both run the shim in the top retainer & I do not believe the v3/4 cams have any difference & if they do it would be next to nothing.

Tuners /some of my engines have seen over 700+bhp so they are the heads to have for a number of reasons.

However a lot of people have moved onto the VVC heads, you have more scope to tune in other areas due to the VVC.

Perfect for your setup & as you are aware the right parts with quality machining/engineering your onto a winner.

Keep @it.
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Old May 20, 2013 | 03:49 PM
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Thanks chaps, guess it gives me the dilemma whether to sell my current V4 block with the heads on or keep them and buy some V4's elsewhere.
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Old May 22, 2013 | 03:06 PM
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If you have a set that you know work/good condition go with them bud.

How far you got with your project then?
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Old May 22, 2013 | 05:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Primeiro
If you have a set that you know work/good condition go with them bud.

How far you got with your project then?
Well I have the blocks, piston's, crank and head-studs lol. Buying a TypeR put things back and getting engaged and arranging a wedding for this time next year have almost ground things to a halt. Con Rods next, then shells and then start looking at having it built.
Having a ready set of heads would help, whereas if I use the one's I have now I'd want new valve seals, re-lapping etc. I'd also be able to sell my engine complete a lot easier than just bottom end.
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