Notices
General Technical
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by: CARiD

Roll Cage fitting issue - Solid Fuel & Brake Lines

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Oct 15, 2012 | 01:04 PM
  #1  
Sc00byurabus's Avatar
Sc00byurabus
Thread Starter
Scooby Regular
 
Joined: Aug 2011
Posts: 45
Likes: 1
From: West Mids
Default Roll Cage fitting issue - Solid Fuel & Brake Lines

HEEEEELLLP!! Need some advice from anyone with a rollcage fitted -

I've stripped interior ready for 6-point rollcage fitting, but where the footplates are going to sit, is right where the solid lines run down the sill (A+ B Pillar)



Can anyone give me some idea as to how I remove the fuel line/brake lines - removed dash and can see they both diasappear thru the bulkhead, but can't see any unions to undo...am I missing something???

Or do I simply need to 'cut' these out - in which case how did you guys re-attach and run these once cage fitted (not sure at the thought of rubber fuel ines inside the car??)

Any pics would be great to give some idea?!??!

Cheers
Reply
Old Oct 15, 2012 | 04:03 PM
  #2  
MadUsa1's Avatar
MadUsa1
Scooby Regular
 
Joined: Sep 2009
Posts: 571
Likes: 8
Default

I have a 6 point SD cage fitted to my Hawk Eye. Pretty sure the fitter just bent the fuel lines slightly to clear the foot plates.
Reply
Old Oct 15, 2012 | 05:00 PM
  #3  
Henrik's Avatar
Henrik
Scooby Regular
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
iTrader: (5)
 
Joined: Jun 2003
Posts: 4,154
Likes: 151
From: London
Default

My hard lines were just bent out of the way during welding
Reply
Old Oct 16, 2012 | 08:53 PM
  #4  
Sc00byurabus's Avatar
Sc00byurabus
Thread Starter
Scooby Regular
 
Joined: Aug 2011
Posts: 45
Likes: 1
From: West Mids
Default

Thanks for response guys...been told however by Custom Cages that the lines need to be removed for welding though??



Last edited by Sc00byurabus; Oct 16, 2012 at 09:01 PM. Reason: Photo added
Reply
Old Oct 17, 2012 | 07:03 AM
  #5  
Henrik's Avatar
Henrik
Scooby Regular
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
iTrader: (5)
 
Joined: Jun 2003
Posts: 4,154
Likes: 151
From: London
Default

well, i guess you *could* remove them, but it's possible to bend them out enough to weld the foot plates etc in.

Nickson Motorsport did mine (on a new age), and they had no issues with the fuel lines staying put.
Reply
Old Oct 17, 2012 | 07:10 AM
  #6  
rooferman's Avatar
rooferman
Scooby Regular
iTrader: (6)
 
Joined: Feb 2004
Posts: 3,377
Likes: 0
Default

No need to remove them...as above they have enough movement on them to weld foot plates to car.
Reply
Old Oct 17, 2012 | 07:19 AM
  #7  
cjquicksilver's Avatar
cjquicksilver
Scooby Regular
iTrader: (23)
 
Joined: Jun 2008
Posts: 3,061
Likes: 0
From: bristol
Default

Made new ones on my classic and secured them to the tunnel
Reply
Old Oct 18, 2012 | 12:49 AM
  #8  
Arch's Avatar
Arch
Scooby Regular
15 Year Member
iTrader: (59)
 
Joined: Jun 2006
Posts: 4,834
Likes: 1
From: Scotland
Default

Just unclip them from the plastic retainers and move them out the way to weld in the foot plates, there is plenty movement to do so
Reply
Old Oct 18, 2012 | 01:27 AM
  #9  
scoobyman2007's Avatar
scoobyman2007
Scooby Regular
iTrader: (5)
 
Joined: Oct 2009
Posts: 1,651
Likes: 2
From: london sw
Default

I just moved them and it was ok
Reply
Old Oct 18, 2012 | 01:17 PM
  #10  
Sc00byurabus's Avatar
Sc00byurabus
Thread Starter
Scooby Regular
 
Joined: Aug 2011
Posts: 45
Likes: 1
From: West Mids
Default

Originally Posted by Arch
Just unclip them from the plastic retainers and move them out the way to weld in the foot plates, there is plenty movement to do so
Originally Posted by scoobyman2007
I just moved them and it was ok

Thanks guys - problem is I'm not doing the work...Custom Cages are. They've advised I do need these removing as it's not safe for them to do any welding with them left in....(Health and Safety I imagine!)

Can anyone pls advise how I remove them - brake lines not so fussed as I'm binning the ABS and mounting my own brake bias, but the fuel lines are more tricky and are the ones they've asked me to remove...??
Reply
Old Oct 18, 2012 | 07:52 PM
  #11  
subzerokent's Avatar
subzerokent
Scooby Regular
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Oct 2011
Posts: 270
Likes: 0
From: folkestone
Default

cut the brake lines out and when you rebuild run a new line thro

for the fuel line i cut mine out and will run aeroquip lines thro you having the fia cage ? i dropped the fuel tank out too
Reply
Old Oct 18, 2012 | 11:14 PM
  #12  
Arch's Avatar
Arch
Scooby Regular
15 Year Member
iTrader: (59)
 
Joined: Jun 2006
Posts: 4,834
Likes: 1
From: Scotland
Default

If you are stripping the car the fuel lines are easy to get out as long as the heater blower is out. I would retain the hard fuel lines if you can as they are effective.
I have removed the the smaller of the three hard pipes and replaced it with a 3rd 8mm hard pipe so that I can rum to pumps with seperate feeds to a engine mounted y-piece. Cant see the point of paying for expensive teflon hoses through the car when there is a perfectly good cheap solution. I have used teflon hose in the boot and partly in the engine bay.

I have used torques AN6 tube fittings to convert the hard lines to -6 fittings instead of a push fit.

some pics on my project thread pages 10 and some on page 9 if it helps.

https://www.scoobynet.com/714409-hil...tually-10.html
Reply
Old Oct 19, 2012 | 06:00 PM
  #13  
STI5300's Avatar
STI5300
Scooby Regular
20 Year Member
iTrader: (4)
 
Joined: Jan 2004
Posts: 1,192
Likes: 0
From: Swansea
Default

Hi,
I do a lot of Scrutineering for rallies. We get numerous problems with weld in cages not being welded in properly by the manufacturer. Make sure they cut holes in the floor so the cage drops down so they can weld the top of the hoops if they fail scrutineering it is a big problem. Some will cut or remove the roof to have it done properly. Once welded they are lifted up and welded into place. Make sure you tell them and clarify that if it fails scrutineering they should pick up the bill. !!!!!!!
Reply
Old Oct 29, 2012 | 09:33 PM
  #14  
Sc00byurabus's Avatar
Sc00byurabus
Thread Starter
Scooby Regular
 
Joined: Aug 2011
Posts: 45
Likes: 1
From: West Mids
Default

Originally Posted by Arch
If you are stripping the car the fuel lines are easy to get out as long as the heater blower is out. I would retain the hard fuel lines if you can as they are effective.
I have removed the the smaller of the three hard pipes and replaced it with a 3rd 8mm hard pipe so that I can rum to pumps with seperate feeds to a engine mounted y-piece. Cant see the point of paying for expensive teflon hoses through the car when there is a perfectly good cheap solution. I have used teflon hose in the boot and partly in the engine bay.

I have used torques AN6 tube fittings to convert the hard lines to -6 fittings instead of a push fit.

some pics on my project thread pages 10 and some on page 9 if it helps.

https://www.scoobynet.com/714409-hil...tually-10.html


Excellent thread...thanks for the tip!!

My 156 has suffered an attack of Alfa-itus recently so not had chance to do anymore work on the Scooby ...just got to wait for a decent weekend, what with it being pitch black when get home from work now...love these winter months..NOT!
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
Scott@ScoobySpares
Full Cars Breaking For Spares
61
Jan 11, 2021 03:08 PM
ATWRX
Full Cars Breaking For Spares
88
Feb 1, 2016 07:28 PM
Scott@ScoobySpares
Full Cars Breaking For Spares
7
Dec 14, 2015 08:16 AM
HEL Performance
Car Parts For Sale
28
Oct 13, 2015 07:36 PM




All times are GMT +1. The time now is 09:52 PM.