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Old 05 January 2012, 12:21 AM
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hi peps could anyone tell what g my td05 is on my v1 jdm sti? As i was going to go for another remap as soon as my new injectors are in but wasnt sure if it was worth waiting and changing the turbo when i have the dosh?

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Old 05 January 2012, 10:00 AM
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Old 05 January 2012, 03:31 PM
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Originally Posted by dannyboygti
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Ok cheers lads, im i right in thinking that i would be lucky to get 350 bhp with all the right mods on that turbo because i was looking for the 380 to 390 mark.. Can i get mine uprated to reach my goal or would it be cheeper to buy another turbo?
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not 2 clued up on this but i think most people would say go down the vf route from wat ive read but dont qoute me on it
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Originally Posted by wozza.t
Ok cheers lads, im i right in thinking that i would be lucky to get 350 bhp with all the right mods on that turbo because i was looking for the 380 to 390 mark.. Can i get mine uprated to reach my goal or would it be cheeper to buy another turbo?
How strong do you think your 18 year old engine is?
How strong do you think your gearbox is?
How good is your clutch?
How many other parts will you need to replace/upgrade?

When you come to the conclusion that pretty much the entire car isnt that good for over 350bhp (and note they use to rebuild these engines with better internals in than the car you have) at 320bhp, and dont ask how much it will cost, lets just say you could buy a much (13 years) newer car for the money

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your going to need at least 8k to even get close to 400hp im afraid not to mention the brakes and suspension.

stick to 300hp, thats more than quick enough for the road.

this is just my oppinion of corse
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Originally Posted by wozza.t
hi peps could anyone tell what g my td05 is on my v1 jdm sti?
Thanks woz


16G I believe.

To be honest, I wouldn't be turning the wick up on a car with an engine and gearbox that old. The old gal has done you proud if she's got this far without needed an engine/gearbox refresh.

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Old 05 January 2012, 05:39 PM
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Although it's a old car it has sweet sounding cdb with fmic, apexi ( with commander),helix clutch ,recon box and go kart suspension ;-) .also it's a toy not a daily driver and if it does go pop im sure he'll sell his brv a few choice parts for a packet of pork scratchins and a pint ;-) .go on brv get a bigger turbo lol





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Lol i thought i might get a bit of a hammering for this post. But like my bruv says i use the car maybe once a week and not for any length of time its only got 50k and the lump has been well looked after. A ride a aprilla rsv factory 1000 so 300bhp in a road car just gets abit boaring for me and it would be ashame to keep it basicly standard as ive just put my new japspeed headers on, got the 4pots wiv braided hoses in the garage and got another set of 440s to send off to lateral to get reflowed/matched. As its a toy when its breaks ill just have to fix it but in the meanwhile just wanted abit more power then a the 16g can give me as its going up clives in norwich for another remap any time soon and dont fancy wasteing my money and his time just a bhp or 2

Has anyone got any info on turbos please
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CDB means sweet fa, its the internals that are the issue, damn even an ODB can run 500bhp.
These engines (especially the early ones) are not that strong, when it goes pop it normally does it in spectacular fashion, piston through the block, chance of engine fire as the rather warm oil goes everywhere etc.
Stick to what you have been told or buy a different car, you wont get a reliable car out of this or just stick to bikes, you would require 500+ to have the fun you think you want out of a car (though if you think like that then you have missed so many opportunities on which cars to buy )
And get the car remapped for your headers/injectors or it will det its little head off

Tony
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i been told by a few people that there is a possibility that mine could be forged as the import v1 wrx sti's engines were hand built with forged pistons and had a cdb. is this not true?
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Originally Posted by wozza.t
i been told by a few people that there is a possibility that mine could be forged as the import v1 wrx sti's engines were hand built with forged pistons and had a cdb. is this not true?
Nope, you still have pretty much the weakest engine available in turbocharged subaru's, you do have dogbone forged pistons but those are not as good as the later versions, the rest of the engine is similar to all the other classics, ie not that good, then you have the gearbox.... its a ty752, weakest of the boxes, your clutch... also sucks, subaru 4 pots, hey even I replaced mine on an MY00 to Brembo/AP combo as they were not that good (though better than the 2 pots).
Basically your starting point isnt good, but for 300bhp, it should do if you think its a little boring then still plenty to spend your money on upgrade the suspension and go for decent brakes, that will help to start with

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what u want is a spec c
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Also ive fited headers already but ive got the knock sensor set really low to insure it warns me if i lean off and i wont put the injectors in till the day of the remap. im not exspecting to be able to beat fire breathing evo's down santa pods 1/4 mile i just want to get the best out of what ive got.. any help in this would be great :-D
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Originally Posted by sonic93
what u want is a spec c
Sorry mate what is a spec c?
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ask tony lol
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Originally Posted by TonyBurns
Nope, you still have pretty much the weakest engine available in turbocharged subaru's, you do have dogbone forged pistons but those are not as good as the later versions, the rest of the engine is similar to all the other classics, ie not that good, then you have the gearbox.... its a ty752, weakest of the boxes, your clutch... also sucks, subaru 4 pots, hey even I replaced mine on an MY00 to Brembo/AP combo as they were not that good (though better than the 2 pots).
Basically your starting point isnt good, but for 300bhp, it should do .

Tony
Lol, very well put! Haha

If you want to get reliable power, forge it up, 6 speed conversion, clutch... but as it's been mentioned, it's going to cost you.

I would like to go down this route one day.

Thanks
Sam

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Old 05 January 2012, 10:24 PM
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So whats the max that i will get out of my 16g?
Old 05 January 2012, 11:42 PM
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Interesting i was woundering how far someone has pushed a 16G ?
my 16G will be on a 2.5 soon !,
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these are SMALL 16g variants. Quite small.

peak power occurs at 20-24psi/ near 1.7-8 bar

300bhp is not unheard of over in the states with a proper map. the maf will max out at 18psi, beware
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Just thinking of the turbo, will be using MAP not MAf. wounder where the end of the compressor map for a standare 16G turbo is and how the CFM translated into real figures.

Most people go for a bigger turbo before pushing the one they have. (Unless U have a TD04 LOL)
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I have the compressor map somewhere

I'd do an evo3 16g if your box can take it
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Your car's standard TD05 16G will give you anywhere between 330-350bhp, you will need bigger injectors if you want these figures though (and fuel pump)

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Well I am already thinking the 16G has lots to offer, i have 440cc at the moment and i know i need 550cc . If it gets sorted soon i will post a dyno plot and see what people think.
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a close friend of mine has an identical set up to what your planning and his out come was

http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c1...e/21ca744f.jpg

not bad for an old motor with an engine made of fudge
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as much as i hate to say it tony is right unless you are willing to spend serious moolah and trust me it gets expensive, btw the v1/2 cdb dont really have forged pistons, i think its hypereutical cast or something like that but they are better than normal cast pistons but v1/2 pistons are ****e

sell it and buy one with the work already done
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Originally Posted by TonyBurns
Your car's standard TD05 16G will give you anywhere between 330-350bhp, you will need bigger injectors if you want these figures though (and fuel pump)

Tony
380 cc injectors.

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