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Does a 3" exhaust system shift torque higher up rev range compared to 2.5"

Old May 24, 2011 | 07:59 PM
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Default Does a 3" exhaust system shift torque higher up rev range compared to 2.5"

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Will fitting a 3" system on a hawkeye STI or other newage model generally lose a bit of low down torque but gain more top end compared to a 2.5"? Whereas a 2.5" system will have more torque lower down but slightly less higher up? Both systems would be the same design/make, just different bore, both with a decat or sports cat downpipe with full remap. No other mods or just panel filter.

Ultimately I'm interested in what aids low down torque, 2.5 or 3".

Thanks for any info.

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Old May 24, 2011 | 09:16 PM
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Good question
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Old May 24, 2011 | 09:20 PM
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To aid low down torque, port the standard headers. A 3" turbo back exhaust will not lose low down torque and may gain you some top end power as compared to a 2.5". Of course the more power you are running the more top end improvement you will notice.

Increasing exhaust cross-section pre-turbo will almost always lose you low down torque.

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Old May 24, 2011 | 09:20 PM
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Double post

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Old May 24, 2011 | 10:31 PM
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3" will be louder, i know that
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Old May 25, 2011 | 10:25 AM
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HI,

We have done BHP Tests on both 2.5" and 3" systems... 3" does give extra BHP.
Please see website www.CobraSport.com ( news section )

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Old May 25, 2011 | 10:31 AM
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Without mapping 3" does rob you some torque just swapping 2.5-3".

'Higher up', 2.5's don't really have a problem higher to where they're still pushing power, so you want it punchy lower down IMHO.
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Old May 25, 2011 | 02:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Cobra Sport Exhausts
HI,

We have done BHP Tests on both 2.5" and 3" systems... 3" does give extra BHP.
Please see website www.CobraSport.com ( news section )

Thanks

Pete
Thanks for all the replies guys. The comparison would be both with a remap as they would both ideally be turbo back systems (with decat or sport cat downpipe). So the general opinion appears to be a 3" makes more top end bhp but the torque is shifted higher up the rev range. Whereas a 2.5" will make slightly less power (bhp) top end but the peak torque comes in earlier in the rev range than with a 3" so in effect you get more "response" low down with a 2.5". Have any other tuners on here or people done tests to back this up?

I know a 2.5" is good for big bhp but 3" is better if going for monster power. I'm just curious about mild power up to ~350 and what the torque characteristics are between the two systems, and which one favours low down "response" more.

Thanks again.
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Old May 25, 2011 | 04:12 PM
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there is a guy on here who tests brake pads (cannot remember his name) he looked into this on the 200sx and found the 2.5" system had better torque.
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