Guys,

Is it just me in thinking that their claims are very off? Or are they actually making silly amounts of power?

Example here is a VF30 which they claim is making 323 WHP, which works out at well over 380bhp at the fly. The car supposedly made 230whp pre exhaust + remap, so they're claiming nearly 100WHP from exhaust and map we don't even get that from the flywheel!

http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show....php?t=2115337

What do you guys make of it? I have said I believe that is the flywheel figure based on the turbo and mods and results the rest of the world gets, and their simple response is quarter mile speeds and our tuners suck.

Opinions?

 

I reckon some claim that flywheel derived bhp is wheel bhp; would certainly explain the above!

 

there is something funny with america my mates delsol full forged turboed the works got 320bhp out of it but in america running same set up they was running nearly 500bhp

 

Come on this measured with Dyno Software not proper Dyno like Dyno Dynamics,Dastek etc.
From VF30 323WHP is probably wet dream,like 380BHP from VF35 IMHO.



Jura

 

The thing annoying me is that the software just says "HP" not WHP. They're deluded I tell you!

 

Its a load of bollacks or B.S in american

That would equate to around 420 bhp at the flywheel wouldn't it?

 

This guy will be happy on dyno 260WHP,323WHP is probably very optimistic(unreal and just as i'm say above just in wet dream).
These guys don't understand SW measurement is not proper Dyno.




Jura

 

Not on funny juice over there too.

When I posted up my power results they almost mocked me. Yet cars producing less or more or less the same they thrived on.

Weird.

Yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeehaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

Steve

 

They need to get BigD over there to show them how it's done............or not

 

Ha! I get yer.

 

yes where do they get their whp figures on what ever crap petrol they use ron 92 or something like that.

they cuss us for using flywheel figures to make ours sound more powerful but typical yanks full of ...... and ram it down your throat

 

Regarding quarter miles etc, isn't there quarter miles a bit shorter than ours?

 

No idea. I really don't get how they think a car making 280BHP at the fly can make 323WHP with an exhaust and remap.

I swear their dynos actually read the flywheel in some cases and they just say it's WHP.

 

That's exactly what I think too.

It just doesn't add up otherwise.

 

us and british bhp is different iirc

 

It's not that different though..

 

Yeah, the bhp unit size difference, doesn't account for the U.S.'s inflated WHP claims.

 

o right dunno, my guess would be over correcting dyno's then.