SC td05 20g
07 January 2010, 11:35 PM
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A std TD05 20G should be good for 400 so i would expect a hybrid or worked upon 20G to either move a bit more air or spool quicker/lower down, or both.
I have no idea what makes the SC 20G different over the std offering. There must be somebody on SN that's using one.
Perhaps if Andy F was about he might know or tell us what makes his 20G different to the std jobby.
I have no idea what makes the SC 20G different over the std offering. There must be somebody on SN that's using one.
Perhaps if Andy F was about he might know or tell us what makes his 20G different to the std jobby.
08 January 2010, 12:12 AM
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08 January 2010, 10:23 AM
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You will always struggle to get over 400 from a 20G on pump fuel. MD series etc is the way to go.
08 January 2010, 04:19 PM
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mine made me 370 on a forged 2.0 with simtec, was hoping for nearer 400 (is an andy f one tho)
was thinking of maybe sending in for an exchange or saving again for a bigger one, expensive either way!!
was thinking of maybe sending in for an exchange or saving again for a bigger one, expensive either way!!
08 January 2010, 04:31 PM
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if was to sell the turbo what is it worth? its done 2000mile
08 January 2010, 04:43 PM
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don't go for those!!!!! cheap for a reason!!!
i only bought used when iwas happy with it's condition/history/originality etc, some people will say never buy used but i'm fine with it.
i only bought used when iwas happy with it's condition/history/originality etc, some people will say never buy used but i'm fine with it.
08 January 2010, 05:14 PM
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my turbo is near enough brand new still
09 January 2010, 11:06 AM
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the td range i do like, but give good torque levels
for higher bhp levels the md321t is better, i wouldn't say its how lucky you are to get the lower figures, id say its down to the mapper & the other mods on the car. nothing in the car would is luck
if you want the really high bhp levels. the the gt range id be checking out
for higher bhp levels the md321t is better, i wouldn't say its how lucky you are to get the lower figures, id say its down to the mapper & the other mods on the car. nothing in the car would is luck
if you want the really high bhp levels. the the gt range id be checking out
09 January 2010, 11:17 AM
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the td range i do like, but give good torque levels
for higher bhp levels the md321t is better, i wouldn't say its how lucky you are to get the lower figures, id say its down to the mapper & the other mods on the car. nothing in the car would is luck
if you want the really high bhp levels. the the gt range id be checking out
for higher bhp levels the md321t is better, i wouldn't say its how lucky you are to get the lower figures, id say its down to the mapper & the other mods on the car. nothing in the car would is luck
if you want the really high bhp levels. the the gt range id be checking out
i dont think thats always the case, why does two identicle cars make different figures when mapped even with same mods? in motorsport where every part is checked down to the micron then you should get the same results. there may be internal differences, as far as tollerances etc, but without stripping down to check your won't know, so you have to hope your on the luck side.
09 January 2010, 11:53 AM
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not really, if you have 2 identical cars. they may be out by the odd couple of horses, not 20/30bhp.
no names here at all, my car was mapped this time last year. made under 300bhp, 287 to be exact, then was mapped by another mapper. exactly the same set up. just a different mapper. then made 317bhp???
that was nothing to do with luck.
that was down to the mapper
but at the same time, the mapper can only map what he has.
but back to the thread, the bigger the turbo. the more ponys you can get
no names here at all, my car was mapped this time last year. made under 300bhp, 287 to be exact, then was mapped by another mapper. exactly the same set up. just a different mapper. then made 317bhp???
that was nothing to do with luck.
that was down to the mapper
but at the same time, the mapper can only map what he has.
but back to the thread, the bigger the turbo. the more ponys you can get
09 January 2010, 11:59 AM
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not really, if you have 2 identical cars. they may be out by the odd couple of horses, not 20/30bhp.
no names here at all, my car was mapped this time last year. made under 300bhp, 287 to be exact, then was mapped by another mapper. exactly the same set up. just a different mapper. then made 317bhp???
that was nothing to do with luck.
that was down to the mapper
but at the same time, the mapper can only map what he has.
but back to the thread, the bigger the turbo. the more ponys you can get
no names here at all, my car was mapped this time last year. made under 300bhp, 287 to be exact, then was mapped by another mapper. exactly the same set up. just a different mapper. then made 317bhp???
that was nothing to do with luck.
that was down to the mapper
but at the same time, the mapper can only map what he has.
but back to the thread, the bigger the turbo. the more ponys you can get
think your situation is slightly different, there are known engine issues. also depends where the map origionates, if its a flash and tweeked map or if its a full custom and also how far the mapper is willing to push it.
by saying 20 bhp difference were talking extreams, not just taking two cars for comparison, mine for example ran 259bhp but 280ftlb when it was first mapped thast about on the mark bhp wise, but about 20 up on torque.
so as said its a bit pot luck as to what you get, different cars results vary so theres no gaurenties, if there were tuners would say you get x bhp for x amount of money, but they dont and always come with a message saying 'results vary from car to car'
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i partly agrea with that one. but the map i had was a custom map
but yes, did get told id get this that & the other.
when you do get whats is exspected, you get a buzz from it.
but when you get under, or alot under, the smile turns to a what the hell!!!
you need to go in there with an open mind, & what a mapper says is kind of hear say till the final result.
these 20g turbos. i dont see the point really for the price
the 16g 330/345ish
the 18g 350/360ish
the 20g 360/390ish
theres nothing really in them
get the td07 for aboth.
wonder what that chager would give?
but, its still down to the mods done. forged bottom end, bigger injectors fueling
headers for the gas flow.
also keeping the engine heat down.
but the turbocharger plays a big part still
but yes, did get told id get this that & the other.
when you do get whats is exspected, you get a buzz from it.
but when you get under, or alot under, the smile turns to a what the hell!!!
you need to go in there with an open mind, & what a mapper says is kind of hear say till the final result.
these 20g turbos. i dont see the point really for the price
the 16g 330/345ish
the 18g 350/360ish
the 20g 360/390ish
theres nothing really in them
get the td07 for aboth.
wonder what that chager would give?
but, its still down to the mods done. forged bottom end, bigger injectors fueling
headers for the gas flow.
also keeping the engine heat down.
but the turbocharger plays a big part still
09 January 2010, 12:26 PM
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Any lightly modded scoob will make more power in the winter than it does in the Summer unless you start using exotic fuels and your cooling is properly well sorted in which case you can almost guarantee similar power levels across the year. If your car was mapped in the summer or on a hot day and then remapped again in the winter on a cold day that could more than add 20/30bhp/ftlb.
Conversely the more miles the engine has done the more likely it is to be down a bit on compression from when it was mapped 30K/40K miles ago plus if you've used some bad fuel in the meantime the ECU will have compensated for that, or the MAF may be dirty, Lambda sensor on the way out, the ECU hasn't been reset in a long time etc ect...and you'll be down on power and could easily account for -20 or 30 bhp/ftlb difference.
It's always swings and roundabouts.
Conversely the more miles the engine has done the more likely it is to be down a bit on compression from when it was mapped 30K/40K miles ago plus if you've used some bad fuel in the meantime the ECU will have compensated for that, or the MAF may be dirty, Lambda sensor on the way out, the ECU hasn't been reset in a long time etc ect...and you'll be down on power and could easily account for -20 or 30 bhp/ftlb difference.
It's always swings and roundabouts.
09 January 2010, 02:51 PM
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There was a post/s by Pat Herborn some time ago explaining that two sepearte car running EXACTLY the same engine spec/mods can vary wildly in their held boost/power/torque! (he was speaking from 1st hand experience).
And to add to the confusion, the flat-4 EJ engine seems to be even more susceptible to this than most others!...
And to add to the confusion, the flat-4 EJ engine seems to be even more susceptible to this than most others!...
09 January 2010, 05:15 PM
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? ive already bought it after being told it would fit and now im stuck with it. what would be mu best option now? thanks