lomas the great

I was driving steady this morning when my car just cut out.
The engine is turning over but not firing.
I got towed home and it started strate away, so i left it for five minitues but now its not starting again.
i carnt hear a pump kicking in and there is no spark.
im thinking its the crank senser but is there any way to test this.

scoobydoo_done_u

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there comon to go m8 crank sensor

scoobysteve2286

it could also be the fuel pump relay that has burnt out..

lomas the great

where abouts is the fuel pump relay

scoobysteve2286

i'm not too sure mate but i had the same problem.. would be driving about as normal and the car would cut out... i'd get it going again and then it would do it again. after a few times it wouldn't start again and i took it to thwaites in warwick and he had it sorted for me within a few hours... not too expensive either.

does that sound like what happening with yours?

Jolly Green Monster

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Check pump wiring under rear seat.
Fuel pump relay if memory is correct is up under dash on a pillar.
Simon

richgreenscooby1

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hia mate
you will be the second person this week to hav this fault , mine did it and my mates last week , if it has a stigma alarm ???
right the fault is the alarm control box the contacts come loose in the module , which controls the fuel pump .
you need to hotwire the module inside or get a new alarm
1000% that is the fault took me 3 days to fix mine

good luk rich

lomas the great

ive got a stigma alarm but its all working fine still but could this still be the problem.
sounds expensive

richgreenscooby1

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hia mate , can you do mechanical stuff ???
its mainly a bit of messing about nothing to serious , doesnt effect the alarm atall it works fine , its the fuel side of it it kills ,
where abouts in the country are you ????
is there any alarm conpanies by you ????
rich

lomas the great

had the rac out just and its not the crank sensor but the fuel pump is not kicking in
the guy said its either the fuel pump rely or the pump its self.
the pumps only been on six months so guessin its not that.
hes told me how to test the rely but i carnt find it.
can any one help pin point it

richgreenscooby1

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hi mate like i said the sigma alarm takes over for it .relay in the alarm box

lomas the great

so how can i disable the alarm to test if it is this with out recking it or leaving my car disabled.

Jolly Green Monster

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have you checkled the wiring under the rear seat yet?

try powering the pump direct


Simon

The Trooper 1815

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Fuel pump relays are in the main fuse box, I think, they are the green ones.

richgreenscooby1

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hi mate im 100% its the alarm module causing it , if you carnt do it yourself you will have to get someone to look at it .
you can test it by finding the wiring out of it , where it joins by the drivers footwell , then follow the wires down the drivers side of the car to the pump wiring under the backseat it changes colour there to , in the drivers footwell you can see where the cut into the loom for the alarm wiring .
rich

p.s you carnt disable the alarm , because it controls the fuel pump
.
which is the relay that is loose on the pcb inside the module .

lomas the great

ive found the fuel pump relay it was behind the fuse box under the steering wheel.
its a cilinder shape and seems fine.
when i turn the key it clicks on and when turned off it clicks again.
i took it out to test the wires for voltage and could not get a proper reading (it was up and down).
ive put direct power to the pump and its fine.
all fuses are fine and all conections are fine and clean.
carnt seem to find any wires that cut into the loom from the alarm.

richgreenscooby1

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right so like i said its the alarm box , look under the steering wheel and there is a gold looking case inside that the alarm box is located .
you need to check it

Jolly Green Monster

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Repeating myself

lomas the great

ive got the lower dash out and found the gold box do i need to undo and lower that down to get a proper look

lomas the great

thanks jgm

richgreenscooby1

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yep thats it two screws holding it together in that there is a black box,
unplug the connectors just make note of the plugs



have you checked the plug under the back seat like green monster said ??

lomas the great

yeah checked under the rear seat its all fine
what happens if i unplug the connectors from the box, will it just dissable all of the alarm

richgreenscooby1

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yeah for now , be ok though , just dissconnect the batt ,
just hav your keys in your pocket , when you unplug the feed the doors will lock unlock , but just dissconect batt , its easier

lomas the great

so i takee it this will fix the problem tempo, and i take it i will have to use the key form the doors

richgreenscooby1

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no mate , you have to open it up now to see what its like inside if the relay is falling off ., car deffo wont run now.

richgreenscooby1

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untill you fix it

lomas the great

oh got ya
will give it a go tomorrow and let you no
thanks for the advice

richgreenscooby1

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no prob
let me know how u get on , u could do with knowing somone good with soldering gun after ????????????????????????????????/

richgreenscooby1

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how the car

lomas the great

no joy booked in the garage friday so i will let you no what they say
thanks anyway