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07 September 2009, 09:40 AM
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Power Engineering
Have any of you out there used Iain Ball at power engineering for a remap?
If so, how much hp did he manage to extract with his mapping capabilities?
If so, how much hp did he manage to extract with his mapping capabilities?
07 September 2009, 10:43 AM
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Not at all.
I has a previous map with him which did improve upon the so called 300hp 'ppp'.
I am fitting a fair few bits to aim for 400 horses and was curious as to whether he would be able to extract just as much horsepower as, say, some of the bigger names. Andy F, Bob Rawle, JGM etc.
Is a mapper generally a mapper or are the former held in high regard for a reason?
I has a previous map with him which did improve upon the so called 300hp 'ppp'.
I am fitting a fair few bits to aim for 400 horses and was curious as to whether he would be able to extract just as much horsepower as, say, some of the bigger names. Andy F, Bob Rawle, JGM etc.
Is a mapper generally a mapper or are the former held in high regard for a reason?
07 September 2009, 11:37 AM
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Ask Ian, and see if he's happy with doing the job, that is the first test, if he jumps at it with confidence, and you're happy with his previous work, then stick with him.
07 September 2009, 12:33 PM
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07 September 2009, 12:43 PM
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Not at all.
I has a previous map with him which did improve upon the so called 300hp 'ppp'.
I am fitting a fair few bits to aim for 400 horses and was curious as to whether he would be able to extract just as much horsepower as, say, some of the bigger names. Andy F, Bob Rawle, JGM etc.
Is a mapper generally a mapper or are the former held in high regard for a reason?
I has a previous map with him which did improve upon the so called 300hp 'ppp'.
I am fitting a fair few bits to aim for 400 horses and was curious as to whether he would be able to extract just as much horsepower as, say, some of the bigger names. Andy F, Bob Rawle, JGM etc.
Is a mapper generally a mapper or are the former held in high regard for a reason?
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07 September 2009, 01:02 PM
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Not a clue 
I've tried contacting him on several occasion and get the 'i'll get him to give you a call'. Of course, i'm not that ignorant, i appreciate the man must be rushed off his feet. I've gone to Iain twice, once for a power run and left him a tip. Second time was the remap, also left a tip so i atleast tried to be a decent customer. It'd be nice to have him give me a call seeing as i started ringing on thursday morning.
So before i carry on pestering him, i just wanted other peoples consensus on whether it was fesible to go to him over anyone else or whether one of the higher regarded mappers may be able to give me a bit more bang for my buck.
Just keeping my options open....
I've tried contacting him on several occasion and get the 'i'll get him to give you a call'. Of course, i'm not that ignorant, i appreciate the man must be rushed off his feet. I've gone to Iain twice, once for a power run and left him a tip. Second time was the remap, also left a tip so i atleast tried to be a decent customer. It'd be nice to have him give me a call seeing as i started ringing on thursday morning.
So before i carry on pestering him, i just wanted other peoples consensus on whether it was fesible to go to him over anyone else or whether one of the higher regarded mappers may be able to give me a bit more bang for my buck.
Just keeping my options open....
07 September 2009, 03:38 PM
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I did try JGM too but the one day i had in mind he was rather busy so i was looking into other options
Has no-one had dealings with Power Engineering and reached 400hp or more?
Has no-one had dealings with Power Engineering and reached 400hp or more?
08 September 2009, 05:54 PM
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They did a great job on my Volvo T4 10 years ago - 260bhp/300lbft - ran in that state of tune without missing a beat until I sold her for another scoob 30k miles later.
That wasn't a remap but boost controller, injectors and rolling road set up. Decent enough guys and knowledgeable - but that was 10 years ago
- ran in that state of tune without missing a beat until I sold her for another scoob 30k miles later.That wasn't a remap but boost controller, injectors and rolling road set up. Decent enough guys and knowledgeable - but that was 10 years ago
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Cheers for the reassurance WRX Blues.
I have spoken to him now, and he seems happy to go ahead.
One thing that did strike me as odd was he said that he would need the vehicle for 3 days in order to adjust the cold start and idle. Does that sound about right when going for bigger injectors or does the ECU automatically adjust the fuel on cold start once it's mapped?
Also, anyone know if the AVCS will automatically aim for optimum performance or will the mapper have to adjust accordingly too?
I have spoken to him now, and he seems happy to go ahead.
One thing that did strike me as odd was he said that he would need the vehicle for 3 days in order to adjust the cold start and idle. Does that sound about right when going for bigger injectors or does the ECU automatically adjust the fuel on cold start once it's mapped?
Also, anyone know if the AVCS will automatically aim for optimum performance or will the mapper have to adjust accordingly too?
09 September 2009, 08:15 PM
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I can highly recommend martyn j of enginetuner they built and mapped my car and helped achieve 400plus within a budget, power engineering is 5 min from where I live but do not get my business due to bad past dealings with friends and myself.
09 September 2009, 08:50 PM
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Really?
Now this is the kind of information i was hoping for, one that is strongly on one side of the fence so to speak.
If you don't mind me asking, what were the issues in the past?
Now this is the kind of information i was hoping for, one that is strongly on one side of the fence so to speak.
If you don't mind me asking, what were the issues in the past?
09 September 2009, 09:02 PM
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Mat the guys there are nice and I have taken two of my imprezas there for power runs. A while back they split the company and ian and another guy took over the rolling road side of things. They got their name from tunic fords and then went onto Subaru and Mitsi etc. I am sure they now there stuff but I have heard some stories of late one being them not running a roller right readings from the wrong place etc and therefor the car suffered an technical issue and ended back up at he garage who built the engine.
It is up to you who you take it to but me personaly I would not take my car to anyone other than a subaru specalist such as clinc, Api, engine tunner and would let know one other than bob Rawle, andy f, Simon jgm map the car as you know 100% they will get the best out of it as they have proven results time and time again
It is up to you who you take it to but me personaly I would not take my car to anyone other than a subaru specalist such as clinc, Api, engine tunner and would let know one other than bob Rawle, andy f, Simon jgm map the car as you know 100% they will get the best out of it as they have proven results time and time again
09 September 2009, 09:20 PM
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Right, there was of course, some uncertainty already about whether to have it taken there or not. I initially wanted Simon at JGM to remap the car but having one day in particular that i could get the car remapped, he is unfortunately busy on that day.
Living in london, can anyone else recommend a very good mapper with a fantastic reputation to boot that may be a bit closer than say, engine tuner, Zen, Andy F, Bob Rawle etc.
Living in london, can anyone else recommend a very good mapper with a fantastic reputation to boot that may be a bit closer than say, engine tuner, Zen, Andy F, Bob Rawle etc.
09 September 2009, 09:50 PM
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Cheers for the reassurance WRX Blues.
I have spoken to him now, and he seems happy to go ahead.
One thing that did strike me as odd was he said that he would need the vehicle for 3 days in order to adjust the cold start and idle. Does that sound about right when going for bigger injectors or does the ECU automatically adjust the fuel on cold start once it's mapped?
Also, anyone know if the AVCS will automatically aim for optimum performance or will the mapper have to adjust accordingly too?
I have spoken to him now, and he seems happy to go ahead.
One thing that did strike me as odd was he said that he would need the vehicle for 3 days in order to adjust the cold start and idle. Does that sound about right when going for bigger injectors or does the ECU automatically adjust the fuel on cold start once it's mapped?
Also, anyone know if the AVCS will automatically aim for optimum performance or will the mapper have to adjust accordingly too?
A good mapper will integrate the AVCR into the set-up to give gear or rpm based boost levels plus pull back max. boost beyond a given rpm value etc. etc. It can also give you an alternative max boost setting (for when you let the other half drive!) It's a very clever piece of kit with useful live readouts.
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10 September 2009, 09:03 AM
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If you want JGM to map your car, then re-arrange things around another date. Not worth the hassle over something so important using someone you are not sure of. Worth booking an extra day off of work to get the right results.
10 September 2009, 09:40 AM
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agree with n scooby but if you want to get it done the only other mapper i would use id bob rawle, he is based in swindon which is not a million miles away and is worth the drive as i have made it a few times in over the years, you will not be disapointed
10 September 2009, 10:30 AM
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Sorry I was unable to do the date you wanted.
Hope you get what you want from the car
Simon
Hope you get what you want from the car
Simon
The only other date i may possibly be able to get the car mapped would be the 1st of october, would you happen to have a free slot that day?
Thanks,
Tom
11 September 2009, 04:32 PM
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Good news is i don't have to resort to Power Engineering as the last cause of action
Simon of JGM has found space to get me fitted in
Simon of JGM has found space to get me fitted in
12 September 2009, 09:32 AM
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I had a new age wrx and put and added the following mods:
sti tmic
sti pinks
vf35
full decat
induction kit
3" exhaust system
walbro
power engineering got the following out of my car with an ecutek...
320/298
in my opinion that was rubbish and i'd never go there again!
i know another friend who also has a new age wrx and again has done all the same mods and power engineering got about the same out of his car.
surely with that set up any of the scooby mappers as mentioned would be able to get figures in the region of 340/330 or more?
i just bought a ver6 sti with only a full decat with a 3" system and JGM mapped it with a simtek... gettin it rolling roaded next sat, but the previous owner told me figures in the region of 330/320 and it most certainly feels like it coz i've had a few cars which i knew were at 320 and this feels much quicker!
i'll post again when i have facts on my actual figures...
But cutting a long story short, my advice is DONT use power engineering coz you'll be disappointed!
at least if you use one of the mappers mentioned you know they'll be getting ALL the potential out of your car
sti tmic
sti pinks
vf35
full decat
induction kit
3" exhaust system
walbro
power engineering got the following out of my car with an ecutek...
320/298
in my opinion that was rubbish and i'd never go there again!
i know another friend who also has a new age wrx and again has done all the same mods and power engineering got about the same out of his car.
surely with that set up any of the scooby mappers as mentioned would be able to get figures in the region of 340/330 or more?
i just bought a ver6 sti with only a full decat with a 3" system and JGM mapped it with a simtek... gettin it rolling roaded next sat, but the previous owner told me figures in the region of 330/320 and it most certainly feels like it coz i've had a few cars which i knew were at 320 and this feels much quicker!
i'll post again when i have facts on my actual figures...
But cutting a long story short, my advice is DONT use power engineering coz you'll be disappointed!
at least if you use one of the mappers mentioned you know they'll be getting ALL the potential out of your car
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12 September 2009, 04:17 PM
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I had a new age wrx and put and added the following mods:
sti tmic
sti pinks
vf35
full decat
induction kit
3" exhaust system
walbro
power engineering got the following out of my car with an ecutek...
320/298
in my opinion that was rubbish and i'd never go there again!
i know another friend who also has a new age wrx and again has done all the same mods and power engineering got about the same out of his car.
surely with that set up any of the scooby mappers as mentioned would be able to get figures in the region of 340/330 or more?
i just bought a ver6 sti with only a full decat with a 3" system and JGM mapped it with a simtek... gettin it rolling roaded next sat, but the previous owner told me figures in the region of 330/320 and it most certainly feels like it coz i've had a few cars which i knew were at 320 and this feels much quicker!
i'll post again when i have facts on my actual figures...
But cutting a long story short, my advice is DONT use power engineering coz you'll be disappointed!
at least if you use one of the mappers mentioned you know they'll be getting ALL the potential out of your car
sti tmic
sti pinks
vf35
full decat
induction kit
3" exhaust system
walbro
power engineering got the following out of my car with an ecutek...
320/298
in my opinion that was rubbish and i'd never go there again!
i know another friend who also has a new age wrx and again has done all the same mods and power engineering got about the same out of his car.
surely with that set up any of the scooby mappers as mentioned would be able to get figures in the region of 340/330 or more?
i just bought a ver6 sti with only a full decat with a 3" system and JGM mapped it with a simtek... gettin it rolling roaded next sat, but the previous owner told me figures in the region of 330/320 and it most certainly feels like it coz i've had a few cars which i knew were at 320 and this feels much quicker!
i'll post again when i have facts on my actual figures...
But cutting a long story short, my advice is DONT use power engineering coz you'll be disappointed!
at least if you use one of the mappers mentioned you know they'll be getting ALL the potential out of your car
