Scooby__Dan

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hello im just looking to upgrade my turbo, i have a uk 2000 turbo i have just got a full de cat system,hks air filter and i was looking at a hks ecu for it, so i was thinkin of puting a bigger turbo on it but which one would be best i want to push as much as i can out for now till i save up so i can go for a really big bhp.

thanks dan

joz8968

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Your car is a MY99 (or MY00), isn't it?

VF35 would be my choice - a std fit item, still excellent spool (despite being bigger than your TD04L), cheap and nearly always one for sale in the SN classifieds (and ebay).

It'll more than cope with the bhp to be gained on your limiting-factor TMIC i.e. circa 300+ (after a remap). Not to be sniffed at, seeing as your car is 215bhp std!

Then, if you decide to get a FMIC later (or, say, fit a STi v.8 TMIC), the turbo can be remapped again for between c.320-340bhp.

Scooby__Dan

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i was then going to ask if i would need a fmic lol so looks like adding one of them to the list aswel then i heard some people going on about a td05 is it?

thanks dan

joz8968

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TD05H 16g is fitted to pre-Sep 96 (v.1/2) JDM saloons.

It's a top entry, so you'd need to get a machine shop to lop off the compressor housing's 'snorkel'.

But yes, these can be picked up for a song 2nd hand and are considered much stronger/reliable than the VF range (mine's 15.5 years old and is performing perfectly with no smoking, etc.!). It's probably not quite as 'lively' low down compared to the VF35, but pulls harder later on.

The TD05 is good for knocking on the door of 350bhp...

myblackwrx

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td05 16g is from early imports and ,imo, is a very good turbo but for your car will need to be converted to front entry as they have a 90deg elbow on the fromt (converting one isn't a big job though).
If your car is a my99/00 then you can get it ecuteked (** www.ecutek.com) instead of using an aftermarket ecu.

whilst you're thinking of increasing the power remember the extra strain on the gerabox/clutch and possibly improving the braking.

joz8968

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LOL, we've done it again mbwrx!

myblackwrx

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yep soon though i will be having to learn about the later model cars and all their little nuances (hopefully )

Scooby__Dan

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someone as just said 100 for a tdo5h to me and dont live to far away i was looking realy for a str8 fit to keep the cost down for now but how would i go about fitting it then where would i take it and how much would it cost about thanks dan

joz8968

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Same here - not clued up on New Age.

myblackwrx

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Joz did i say New Age imprezas

Dan speak to these people Midland Scoobies - For The Midlands Subaru Community and they should be able to point you in the right direction for good garages

joz8968

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Dan, re. an STi 8 TMIC onto a phase 2 Classic, you could try fitting it yourself:-

Scoobypedia | Trusted knowledge for everything Subaru | Knowledge / DIY - STi 8 Intercooler onto MY00 Classic

joz8968

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Oh, when you say "later cars", you mean Classics other than your phase 1 i.e. phase 2, MY99/00 (possibly phase 1.5, MY97/98 as well), right?

myblackwrx

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Well since i have a 93 wrx ALL the cars are later models

Going off topic here (sorry OP) as much as i like the refinement of the New Age cars i do prefer the rawness of the classics and especially as some of the prices i've seen for RAs and Rs now are pretty low and they come with a rather cool extra toy it's easier than modifying mine

Scooby__Dan

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mine a 93 shell with a v5 or v6 engine i did want a fmic tho anyways to be fair so i should go for a vf35 then as its a str8 fit and i wouldnt have to send it to a garage

joz8968

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If you're handy with the spanners, then you can fit the VF35 (or modded TD05 16g) and STi 8 TMIC yourself, for sure.

Just remember to get it remapped soon after, and in the meantime DO NOT hoon and use boost i.e. don't let inlet pressure rise beyond 0bar/psi , until you do!

Scooby__Dan

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well my girlfriends dad works for the rac and her brother in a garage so should be easy enuff to be fair ill not get it fitted till its going str8 in to be remapped aswel

StiX

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The later intercoolers can cope with 320ish bhp.

The early 'slanty' ones apparently cannot.

I am running a VF35, with standard MY00 intercooler but did change the very restrictive piping underneath for STi alloy Y-piece with Samcos.

But I do agree with your comments regarding the VF35 - its fantastic if you are looking at 320-340bhp as its still pretty fast spooling, slightly slower to pick up than TD04 but not much. Once it picks up much stronger pull then nearly to redline.

Mine makes 1bar by 3k and is mapped to 1.5bar.

325bhp/320lbft.

Scooby__Dan

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all i want for now is for it to be a bit quicker i cant moan as im only 20 so you know lol

joz8968

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Sure mate - you're right. ... And I've just 'proved' it! lol...

Yesterday, I had my just run-in, new ZEN engine (still on TD05, 380s at the mo) mapped there and it made 281.8bhp on an STi v.2 slanty TMIC (has the less restrictive metal/silicone feed pipe). Mapped at 1.3bar, tailing off to 1.1bar (thanks to Paul's skills).

I'm happy with that torque figure, I must say.

That was running only Esso Supreme 97 fuel (my deliberate choice) - so on V-Power would have no doubt done 290+. So a good result, I think... but look at the way the tiny TMIC causes power to tail off abruptly:-

Scooby__Dan

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think i have a fmic on the way monday

so where is the best place to get it remapped and how much is it going to cost.



my mate has a newage wrx and he took it to scoobyclinc and he got 341bhp spent just under 4k on it up there and he say it only realy pulls good top end i think he wanted more lower down the revs he wants to know what he can do to it now with out it costing him another 4k, has it been remapped on realy low boost can he just knock the boost up ?? he asked me to ask you lot lol

thanks