Notices

Do Scoby's benefit from fitting a Blow off Valve/Dump Valve?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 20 May 2007, 10:16 PM
  #1  
John McLaren
Scooby Newbie
Thread Starter
 
John McLaren's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Posts: 4
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Do Scoby's benefit from fitting a Blow off Valve/Dump Valve?

Hi All,

I've just a 2005 WRX. It's standard at moment but was looking to fit a HKS blow off valve or something similar.

I asked a similar question on the pistonhead forum and they basically said you don't need them on a 2005 scooby. I thought that the trapped air in the pipe caused the turbo turbine blades to slow down - hence more lag, cos you have to get the turbo to spin a ful again! But they said that the excess gas is reciculated back into the system, so doesn't 'stall' the turbo.

If this is true, do people buy them just for the noise they make?

Cheers,

John
Old 20 May 2007, 11:01 PM
  #2  
andythejock01wrx
Scooby Regular
 
andythejock01wrx's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Edinburgh (ish)
Posts: 8,089
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Yes, folk buy 'em for the noise alone (just went back to std recirc, LOL).
Old 20 May 2007, 11:02 PM
  #3  
Bob Rawle
Ecu Specialist
 
Bob Rawle's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 1999
Location: Swindon
Posts: 3,938
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

You already have a perfectly good one fitted as std and there really isn't any technical need to change from it.

bob
Old 20 May 2007, 11:16 PM
  #4  
funkyspider
Scooby Regular
 
funkyspider's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Lancashire & District Subaru Owners
Posts: 1,335
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Lots of info on dump valves on this site if you use the search function. You currently have a recirculating one bolted to the front of the intercooler and there is no reason to change it for a Atmospheric one.
Old 20 May 2007, 11:26 PM
  #5  
corradoboy
Scooby Regular
 
corradoboy's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Just beyond the limits of adhesion
Posts: 19,020
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

This forum must have saved you a good 400 quid tonight alone Put some of that towards suspension and chassis products which will make your car faster without being less reliable
Old 21 May 2007, 12:15 AM
  #6  
Donkster
Scooby Regular
 
Donkster's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Essex
Posts: 53
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

They produce a nice sound and that's about it. I fitted one for a while before removing it ... the wife kept asking what's that farting sound when I first fitted it (and no, it was the dump valve, not me!)
Old 21 May 2007, 12:40 PM
  #7  
John McLaren
Scooby Newbie
Thread Starter
 
John McLaren's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Posts: 4
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Thanks everyone for your reply's - Saved me loads of dosh :-)

Cheers,

John
Old 21 May 2007, 01:36 PM
  #8  
IJE71
Scooby Regular
 
IJE71's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: 53°32̀ 51.15"N 2°31̀ 36.38"W
Posts: 140
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Does this mean that all pro rally drivers, not just scoobs, fit BOV's for the noise? I would have thought that a vent to atmosohere would lose more pressure than a recirculating valve venting to a pressurized system.
Old 21 May 2007, 02:01 PM
  #9  
Davros 1979
Scooby Regular
iTrader: (56)
 
Davros 1979's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Newport Pagnell
Posts: 1,460
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

IIRC rally cars do not use BOV's at all.

Means a shorter life span for the turbo though.
Old 21 May 2007, 06:00 PM
  #10  
silent running
Scooby Regular
 
silent running's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: East coast.
Posts: 3,957
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

Cars with MAP sensor based systems can run atmospheric dump valves perfectly fine and in this case an atmospheric can always dump out a lot more charge and faster too, than a recirculating. On a MAF sensor based car like a Subaru, only a recirculating should be used.
Old 21 May 2007, 06:16 PM
  #11  
andythejock01wrx
Scooby Regular
 
andythejock01wrx's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Edinburgh (ish)
Posts: 8,089
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

MAF = Mass Air Flow

MAP = Ermm, "Starter for Ten !" ?
Old 21 May 2007, 06:55 PM
  #12  
mickywrx
Unmapped 12.4s @ 105
iTrader: (29)
 
mickywrx's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Newcastle. 330bhp-289lb/ft @ 1bar boost - 12.4s @ 105mph
Posts: 11,776
Likes: 0
Received 4 Likes on 4 Posts
Post

MAP = Manifold Absolute Pressure

Last edited by mickywrx; 21 May 2007 at 06:57 PM.
Old 21 May 2007, 08:26 PM
  #13  
silent running
Scooby Regular
 
silent running's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: East coast.
Posts: 3,957
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

My old Clio 16v was based on a MAP sensor system. It basically measures manifold pressure and air temperature and calculates the air volume from that. When I turbocharged it, it could therefore run an atmospheric dump valve with no problems at all.
Old 21 May 2007, 10:59 PM
  #14  
andythejock01wrx
Scooby Regular
 
andythejock01wrx's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Edinburgh (ish)
Posts: 8,089
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by mickywrx
MAP = Manifold Absolute Pressure

The winner ! And now for 5 points, how does a MAF work ?
Old 22 May 2007, 12:52 PM
  #15  
Fixel
Scooby Regular
 
Fixel's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: N/A
Posts: 211
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by andythejock01wrx
And now for 5 points, how does a MAF work ?
Mass airflow sensor

Last edited by Fixel; 22 May 2007 at 12:54 PM. Reason: .
Old 22 May 2007, 01:19 PM
  #16  
andythejock01wrx
Scooby Regular
 
andythejock01wrx's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Edinburgh (ish)
Posts: 8,089
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Fiwek
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
Mattybr5@MB Developments
Full Cars Breaking For Spares
33
29 August 2017 07:18 PM
Scott@ScoobySpares
Full Cars Breaking For Spares
7
14 December 2015 08:16 AM
Danny0608
Subaru
6
27 September 2015 02:16 PM
ossett2k2
General Technical
9
13 September 2015 09:35 AM
Danny0608
Subaru Parts
0
12 September 2015 02:59 PM



Quick Reply: Do Scoby's benefit from fitting a Blow off Valve/Dump Valve?



All times are GMT +1. The time now is 06:11 AM.