PPP or not???
I'm thinking of coming back into the Scoob fold with a 2004 or 2005 Sti.
My question is, should I go for one with PPP, or get one without for a little less money and then spend the money on alternative tuning??
305bhp with the PPP I believe, but isn't it pretty "easy" (loosely) to get 330bhp or so??
I don't know a lot about the newer Scoobs, so all advice appreciated.
I really fancy a Crystal Grey one.....they do look very nice!!!
My question is, should I go for one with PPP, or get one without for a little less money and then spend the money on alternative tuning??
305bhp with the PPP I believe, but isn't it pretty "easy" (loosely) to get 330bhp or so??
I don't know a lot about the newer Scoobs, so all advice appreciated.
I really fancy a Crystal Grey one.....they do look very nice!!!
2005 spec will have A-DCCD and yaw sensor which is a big step forward for grip and sorting out the car if you can't drive without a computer doing it for you like me

suspension mods are a good improvement over the 2004 aswell.
exhaust/filter/fuel pump mods with remap will get around 320bhp with similar torque (which is probably at least 25bhp over what most PPP's get)


suspension mods are a good improvement over the 2004 aswell.
exhaust/filter/fuel pump mods with remap will get around 320bhp with similar torque (which is probably at least 25bhp over what most PPP's get)
Aye.......I've been doing a bit of reading up on the models and it would seem that the 2005 is quite an improvement over the previous models.
Whether a driver of my ability would really notice the difference is questionable, but the chassis changes are supposed to make the car better.
I guess I may go for a 2005 car and then wait a bit and save for some mods.
My last Scoob was a classic (1998) wagon with around 270 bhp.............do you think the new car will be as quick (standard)??
Whether a driver of my ability would really notice the difference is questionable, but the chassis changes are supposed to make the car better.
I guess I may go for a 2005 car and then wait a bit and save for some mods.
My last Scoob was a classic (1998) wagon with around 270 bhp.............do you think the new car will be as quick (standard)??
Based on weight figures, using Car Stats - Calculator
you will need 322bhp to match a 270bhp classic - power to weight!!
I know its not accurate, but gives you an idea?
Apparently UK turbos are 1235kgs, and STi Type Uks are 1470kgs.
you will need 322bhp to match a 270bhp classic - power to weight!!
I know its not accurate, but gives you an idea?
Apparently UK turbos are 1235kgs, and STi Type Uks are 1470kgs.
Aye.......I've been doing a bit of reading up on the models and it would seem that the 2005 is quite an improvement over the previous models.
Whether a driver of my ability would really notice the difference is questionable, but the chassis changes are supposed to make the car better.
I guess I may go for a 2005 car and then wait a bit and save for some mods.
My last Scoob was a classic (1998) wagon with around 270 bhp.............do you think the new car will be as quick (standard)??

Whether a driver of my ability would really notice the difference is questionable, but the chassis changes are supposed to make the car better.
I guess I may go for a 2005 car and then wait a bit and save for some mods.
My last Scoob was a classic (1998) wagon with around 270 bhp.............do you think the new car will be as quick (standard)??

yes you spend most of your life changing gear, but i find it really helps to keep it in the power band.it's a totally different power delivery, the classic is WHAM!! shove up the ****, whereas the newage feels more like it pulls you along. i think it's this punchy delivery that makes the classic feel more brutal.
oh, and it would kill my old classic round the corners, it's soooooo much better
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