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Old 20 February 2007, 04:39 PM
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Hi everyone,just after some info really,i've got a 99 2.0lt turbo wagon ,and i'm wanting to get it re-mapped...

Just wondering where u guys/girls,suggest i take it , at the moment the car as full de cat ,and jr panel filter and thats about it really..

Also i've heard i may be best going for a stand alone apexi unit,as i could sell this on when come to sell car,is this also a better option(power wise)..

Also any info on rough prices/power figures (after re-map) would be much appreiciated.....

Thanks in advance......

By the way i'm Yorkshire based (Leeds).....
Old 20 February 2007, 05:19 PM
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Hmmm, Andy F not too far away from you..........
Old 20 February 2007, 05:42 PM
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Originally Posted by AFRIKANZ
Hmmm, Andy F not too far away from you..........

Obviously Andy F is very highly regarded. But if you want a BHP figure after mapping you'll probably have to pay extra to get on a RR. The last I heard is that Andy F doesn't use a rolling road & his mapping is carried out on the road.

I am lucky to have a decent mapping specialist in my town - Alan Jeffrey's & they map on the rolling road & map on the road to get the best of both worlds. Although reports state Andy F is one of the top dogs mapping wise - I would always prefer my mapper to use both methods.

I would expect to pay £200 + vat for your map.

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Old 20 February 2007, 06:10 PM
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Looked both these up cheers,but seem a bit far

One in Devon,other in Scotland,although Andy F does mapping mobile as well...

Both seem spot on as well....

Cheers
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Old 20 February 2007, 08:42 PM
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Old 20 February 2007, 08:50 PM
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There is also Jolly Green Monster (aka Simon) as well who is highly regarded. Best thing to do is contact them directly as if they are in your neck of the woods at some point it becomes less of an issue where you are based (you could even try and sort a mapping day out with others).

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Old 20 February 2007, 09:00 PM
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£200 + vat? where the hell are you getting your mapping done.

If you have a 1999 wagon that's never been touched mapping wise then its going to cost you nearer £650 + vat for your first map as you'll need to pay for the Ecutek license first time. Then subequent maps will cost you anywhere between £250 - £350. If you want an apexi you'll obviously have to pay for the ECU and the mapping. As far as I am aware andy is supplying and mapping these for around £850 + vat.

I have had both done on my MY99 I now run an Apexi power FC.

Hope that paints a clearer picture for you.

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Originally Posted by dazdavies
£200 + vat? where the hell are you getting your mapping done.

Daz
Thats about what I paid for my map at AJs on an apexi pfc. Including VAT that takes a big chunck out of £250.

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Originally Posted by dazdavies
£200 + vat? where the hell are you getting your mapping done.

If you have a 1999 wagon that's never been touched mapping wise then its going to cost you nearer £650 + vat for your first map as you'll need to pay for the Ecutek license first time. Then subequent maps will cost you anywhere between £250 - £350. If you want an apexi you'll obviously have to pay for the ECU and the mapping. As far as I am aware andy is supplying and mapping these for around £850 + vat.

I have had both done on my MY99 I now run an Apexi power FC.

Hope that paints a clearer picture for you.

Daz

Cheers for info,so would u say i'm best going for the apexi,what power gains did u achieve,
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Old 20 February 2007, 10:04 PM
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scoobyclinic. Chesterfield not that far.
Old 20 February 2007, 10:08 PM
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Originally Posted by skywalker23
Cheers for info,so would u say i'm best going for the apexi,what power gains did u achieve,

apexi are become very hard to come by, they have gone bust (so i understand, but may have that wrong) but it is a very good bit of kit, will prob work out slightly more than a tek3, but if i was having mine mapped from scratch would be the route i would go.

mine was mapped by Pat herborn on scoobyclinic's rr before being road finished, and a top job he did to
Old 20 February 2007, 10:23 PM
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Apexi ECU's are still available to the authorised dealers. Do a search and you'll see how highly regarded Paul Blamire of Zen Performance is. Also not too far from you.

See here Zen Performance - ECU Mapping
Old 20 February 2007, 10:29 PM
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I can vouch for Alan Jeffrey's, in Plymouth. Top notch. I had my P1 done there, great results 350bhp/320lbft. Very reasonable prices!

http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q.../dyno20003.jpg
Old 20 February 2007, 10:37 PM
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Well I went to Power Plus Engineering near Uxbridge this summer and they quote me £500 to alter the ICU settings and give another 30 Bhp, which sounded OK didn't do it but still tempted
Old 20 February 2007, 10:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Tidgy
apexi are become very hard to come by, they have gone bust (so i understand, but may have that wrong) but it is a very good bit of kit
not hard to come by at all, and they haven't gone bust.

Simon
Old 20 February 2007, 11:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Jolly Green Monster
not hard to come by at all, and they haven't gone bust.

Simon

i'm positive thast what a few people have said to me????????

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Originally Posted by smokingkills
Thats about what I paid for my map at AJs on an apexi pfc. Including VAT that takes a big chunck out of £250.
On an existing Power FC. This guy has an unmapped MY1999 therefore either requiring the initial ecutek license and map or the purchase of the Power FC in the first place.

As for my recommendations I would say that you need to work out any future plans for the car. If the car is going to remain reasonably standard then an ECUtek remap will be ok. The power FC will be more suitable if you plan to mod the car to higher levels.

Plus Apexi haven't gone bust at all.

Daz
Old 21 February 2007, 12:31 PM
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To confirm, Apexi have not gone bust. In a nutshell... they were involved in a 'failed venture' with a 3rd party and have basically incurred debts on that venture. But they are still trading and they are still manufacturing and will continue to do so.

Liz @ Zen
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Originally Posted by Zen Performance
To confirm, Apexi have not gone bust. In a nutshell... they were involved in a 'failed venture' with a 3rd party and have basically incurred debts on that venture. But they are still trading and they are still manufacturing and will continue to do so.

Liz @ Zen

ahhh righto, thanks for the info, that clears that up
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Should have also added that Zen is currently running a groupbuy on the supply, fitting and mapping of the Power FC.

£695 +vat (usual price £800 +vat) Running until March 17th.

Power FCs are available for the orginal thread starters year of car, as is the EcuTeK remap of the standard ECU (which we also do.) I concur with Daz about what ECU you go for... you need an idea of what you want to achieve long term and then speak to people that you might consider for the work and go from there.

Liz @ Zen
Old 21 February 2007, 01:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Zen Performance
Should have also added that Zen is currently running a groupbuy on the supply, fitting and mapping of the Power FC.

£695 +vat (usual price £800 +vat) Running until March 17th.

Power FCs are available for the orginal thread starters year of car, as is the EcuTeK remap of the standard ECU (which we also do.) I concur with Daz about what ECU you go for... you need an idea of what you want to achieve long term and then speak to people that you might consider for the work and go from there.

Liz @ Zen
Oh Liz mate, why did you have to mention this ?
Was already tempted to get the Wagon into your place anyway. Will be intouch soon.

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Old 21 February 2007, 02:14 PM
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Always a pleasure and never a chore Andy!
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