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Old 11 February 2007, 03:45 PM
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Hi , my engine expired recently (knocking) and i've just had a chance to open her up to check the damage

Well the crank and 1 conrod has been badly scored and also a bearing had spun on that same rod

So it looks like it just needs a new crankshaft, 1x conrod + bearing set. The heads are untouched.

the block bores are fine and everything else looks spot on.

I noticed the thurst bearing is not in the middle but on the far corner closest to the flywheel side.. does this mean I can drop in the better STi V9 crank with no mods?

If i can wheres cheapest place I cab get hold of one? I assume I can use the standard Sti V5 bearings with this

Thanks in advance

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Old 11 February 2007, 03:50 PM
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You can drop an STi 9 crank straight in as the thrust bearing is on no 5 main as your version 5.

Whilst the engines in bits it might be worth going for some aftermarket uprated bearings like ACL.
I would suggest speaking to Mark at "Lateral Performance" for parts.

Can i also suggest you change the oil-water cooler, this is a must!
You may also want to get an uprated oil pump from the likes of Roger Clark.

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Old 11 February 2007, 04:56 PM
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I had a rebuild on my version 4 and it uses the v9 crank (and ACL bearings too). I do not believe any modification was required to fit the crank.
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You will also need to replace the OE oil cooler. Head gaskets will be required, you can strip and check the oil pump, it's usually not necessary to replace it, although many opt to upgrade to a modified pump. You will need the 4 black orings (3 in block, one on oil pump) and the orange o-ring in the block waterway. If you're not boring and honing, then you can go straight in with decent oil rather than running-in oil, so budget for that, the coolant, filter, sump washer etc.

The sti9 cross drilled crank is ideal and should fit straight in. We always use ACL heavy duty or Race series bearings on rebuilds and stock them at competitive prices.

If you are rebuilding I would strongly recommend you take the opportunity to uprate the rods, with the very least to Sti 9 spec, which are less than £200+vat for a set of 4. They are a superior rod and cheap insurance, as the standard rods are definitely the week point of the classic STI engines.

Crank seals are usually okay, but not expensive if you want to replace, probably best to get water pump gaskets, water cross pipe o-rings, inlet manifold gaskets. Buying individual gaskets is much cheaper than getting the whole gasket set which is great but includes a lot of gaskets and washers you don't really need to disturb let alone replace.

Add some assembly lube (graphogen or engine assemble lube), silicone sealer (3-bond or loctite Blacktite is best) and you should have everything you need.

Paul
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Originally Posted by Zen Performance
You will also need to replace the OE oil cooler. Head gaskets will be required, you can strip and check the oil pump, it's usually not necessary to replace it, although many opt to upgrade to a modified pump. You will need the 4 black orings (3 in block, one on oil pump) and the orange o-ring in the block waterway. If you're not boring and honing, then you can go straight in with decent oil rather than running-in oil, so budget for that, the coolant, filter, sump washer etc.

The sti9 cross drilled crank is ideal and should fit straight in. We always use ACL heavy duty or Race series bearings on rebuilds and stock them at competitive prices.

If you are rebuilding I would strongly recommend you take the opportunity to uprate the rods, with the very least to Sti 9 spec, which are less than £200+vat for a set of 4. They are a superior rod and cheap insurance, as the standard rods are definitely the week point of the classic STI engines.

Crank seals are usually okay, but not expensive if you want to replace, probably best to get water pump gaskets, water cross pipe o-rings, inlet manifold gaskets. Buying individual gaskets is much cheaper than getting the whole gasket set which is great but includes a lot of gaskets and washers you don't really need to disturb let alone replace.

Add some assembly lube (graphogen or engine assemble lube), silicone sealer (3-bond or loctite Blacktite is best) and you should have everything you need.

Paul
Thats for that Paul , Thats exacly what I needed to know, I'll give you a call today ..
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Cheers for the help Paul.. Will be sending my bits off tomm and ordering some others

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