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Old 26 January 2007, 11:06 AM
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Default How much to fit and map an apexi FC Commander privately?

I can get the unit for around £400 but i'm told a good mapping place would charge £400 to map it!! I've been with someone who had a "stand alone ECU" and went in the car with him. On a private road of course! . It only took an hour to map it!
Any private people out there who are good and don't rip you off! ??
Old 26 January 2007, 11:12 AM
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Who told you £400?
Why don't you get the person you went out with to map it?
Speak to jollygreenmonster (to name 1 mapper)on here he charges but nowhere near £400.
I suppose if you're good at understanding the software you could do it yourself
Old 26 January 2007, 11:16 AM
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The bloke i went out with is too unreliable,shame as he is very good! Let me down to many times. Any idea of cost?
Old 26 January 2007, 11:25 AM
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You can pm jollygreenmonster on here or go to Jolly Green Monster - ECU Mapping.
Like i said he is but one of the many good Apexi mappers on here.
(i won't post prices on here as its best if you deal with them on a 1 to 1 basis)
Old 26 January 2007, 11:25 AM
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I had mine mapped for £250. He is highly recomended and has a great reputation.
Where are you located??
People will have a better idea of who where you can have this done.

Mike
Old 26 January 2007, 11:41 AM
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I'm in the warickshire area but willing to travel to get it done by the right person.
Just spoke to Scoobymania. Fekin Ell! They told me Apexi Fc are crap and the boost can not be altered??
Then told me for a Gems ecu fitted and mapped would cost £1500!! And a Sigma would be £900 all in!
So much conflicting evidence, perhaps i should have stuck to bikes!!
Old 26 January 2007, 11:53 AM
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Come on Peeps, feel like a floundering fish
Old 26 January 2007, 11:58 AM
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Im having a Apexi PFC with a VF35 turbo & Walbro pump on a MY00 fitted next week at Zen in Northants, I believe the Mapping alone is £280 plus VAT (£329)
Old 26 January 2007, 11:58 AM
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Originally Posted by J_sca001
I'm in the warickshire area but willing to travel to get it done by the right person.
Just spoke to Scoobymania. Fekin Ell! They told me Apexi Fc are crap and the boost can not be altered??
Then told me for a Gems ecu fitted and mapped would cost £1500!! And a Sigma would be £900 all in!
So much conflicting evidence, perhaps i should have stuck to bikes!!
Paul Balmire is in Northamptonshire. Google 'Zen Performance': Im sure he will be closer to £250 than £400 also...
Old 26 January 2007, 11:59 AM
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contact Andy F job done!! Done 3 cars for me this week. No nonsence, no hassle, no ridicule of other ecu,s or mappers. Just maps your motor the way you want it/drive it.
Old 26 January 2007, 12:03 PM
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Forgot to add that an Apexi PFC are very good at what they do, sounds like that place you spoke to were trying to put you off so you'd spend more cash on a more expensive ECU
Old 26 January 2007, 12:06 PM
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Must admit iv'e got to that point
Has AndyF got a site on the net? Generally speaking what sort of figure would he charge and what does he supply Do i still have to buy the Apexi
Old 26 January 2007, 12:08 PM
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Andys Site AndyForrestPerformance
Old 26 January 2007, 12:08 PM
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If you are in the warickshire area, speak to API..............
Old 26 January 2007, 12:28 PM
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Certainly seems Andy F is the man for the Job!

Just as a last thought, who is 22B-Andy

Heard he works with the Mine's ecu?
Old 26 January 2007, 12:50 PM
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can recommend apexi fc and andy f!! worth getting it done properley!
Old 26 January 2007, 01:15 PM
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I can put you in touch with the guy that mapped mine. He can supply the PFC and map it for around £750, if your willing to travel to Lancs??

He posts on this site as "AndrewC" if you want to PM him.

Hope you can get it sorted.
Mike
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Just had a chat with Andy F.

Job sorted!

One happy bunny!

Thanks all
Old 26 January 2007, 02:13 PM
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I'm going to TEG Motorsport / Steve Simpson for my mapping, paying what you'd pay for a 'private' mapper + RR before / after + road time in the price as well.
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Glad you got it sorted but i don't understand why scoobymania said the boost cannot be altered on it
Old 26 January 2007, 02:24 PM
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Sounds like scoobymania were pulling your pud there. Must've needed to shift some other ECUs.
Old 26 January 2007, 03:39 PM
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Originally Posted by J_sca001
I'm in the warickshire area but willing to travel to get it done by the right person.
Just spoke to Scoobymania. Fekin Ell! They told me Apexi Fc are crap and the boost can not be altered??
That's not what I said. I told you that you would need an additional boost controller on the earlier Apexi and this is correct (if you want to run more than 1 bar of boost).

I offered some better (in our opinion) alternatives. With Sigma now being a "better" alternative than the GEMS and their relevant prices. Both of the ECU's I suggested are far more capable out of the box than the power FC. They also don't need any expensive additional "add-ons" to make them work correctly.


Originally Posted by J_sca001
Then told me for a Gems ecu fitted and mapped would cost £1500!! And a Sigma would be £900 all in!
Those prices are plus VAT, not "all in" but include fitting and mapping on a 4WD Rolling Road (then on the road), with before and after graphs.
Old 26 January 2007, 03:47 PM
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The Apexi Power FC is a relatively cheap stand alone unit and a good step up to a mappable ECU. Boost control is limitted which is why many people, especially with bigger turbos run a PFC plus electronic boost controller such as Apexi AVC-R. You will also find Apexi Power FCs running with Dawes Devices or other bleed valves to control boost.
For a little more money you could have a Sigma ECU which includes very reliable boost control so there is no expense in a secondary boost control device. In fact, the Sigma operates in closed loop boost amongst its many features and anti-lag is a cost option if you are into that sort of thing.
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Just to add, £940 inclusive of VAT for the Sigma including a before and after Rolling Road run showing bhp, torque, AFR and boost profile. Mapping takes place, initially, on the rollers with real road testing and adjustments afterwards if required.
Old 26 January 2007, 04:14 PM
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prob looking about £800 for apexi ecu and commander inc fitting and mapping try this Jolly Green Monster - ECU Mapping
Old 26 January 2007, 04:32 PM
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Running 1.5 bar boost with Apexi without additional boost control on one car and 1.4 on another. Why would additional boost control be needed?
Old 26 January 2007, 10:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Scooby Mania
I told you that you would need an additional boost controller on the earlier Apexi and this is correct (if you want to run more than 1 bar of boost). .
That is incorrect, you do not need an additional boost controller, just a sensor.

Originally Posted by harvey
The Apexi Power FC is a relatively cheap stand alone unit and a good step up to a mappable ECU. Boost control is limitted .................................................. .................................................. ...... In fact, the Sigma operates in closed loop boost amongst its many features and anti-lag is a cost option if you are into that sort of thing.
I do not agree. Boost control on the Power Fc is very capable, limited only by the OE map sensor which reads over 1.7 bar on 97- cars. 93-97 cars are easily and cheaply upgraded to this spec.

The Apexi Power FC also operates in closed loop boost control and can be set up to have 4 boost settings which are adjustable by the driver from the FC commander handset display in the car.


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