Notices

Divorced down pipe or not

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 23 January 2007, 07:59 PM
  #1  
Spyder550
Scooby Regular
Thread Starter
 
Spyder550's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Hampshire
Posts: 379
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Divorced down pipe or not

Anyone know much about turbo's. I am currently re-engining my kitcar/replica with a Subaru Impreza turbo motor. The Subaru has a turbo with an integral wastegate next to the turbo's exhaust outlet.

Looking at the attached picture which would be better for the turbo downpipe, a downpipe where the wastegate gases are divorced for a distance or one where they they are merged immediately.



Cheers
Guy
Old 23 January 2007, 08:08 PM
  #2  
ian10
Scooby Regular
 
ian10's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Posts: 509
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

merged
as the others can cause boost creep
Old 23 January 2007, 10:50 PM
  #3  
silent running
Scooby Regular
 
silent running's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: East coast.
Posts: 3,957
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

Well they both exit the same way, so no real reason to run two separate pipes.
Old 23 January 2007, 10:50 PM
  #4  
92typeRA
Scooby Regular
 
92typeRA's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: edinburgh
Posts: 613
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

open mouth 1
Old 24 January 2007, 01:39 PM
  #5  
swisstonihasher
Scooby Regular
 
swisstonihasher's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: South West
Posts: 1,568
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Wink

I have a split down pipe (not as long as one in your pic though) and no probs on boost creep, even at max 1.65 bar on hybrid turbo! Decent mapper (like Bob) can do magic anyway.
Old 24 January 2007, 01:47 PM
  #6  
KIPS
Scooby Regular
 
KIPS's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: ESSEX ...BORN AND BRED PETROL HEAD....................... MANS BEST FRIEND IS A ENGLISH BULL TERRIER
Posts: 1,666
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Ive got a divorced pipe on mine what is the reason for the twin pipe???
kips
Old 25 January 2007, 03:57 PM
  #7  
harvey
Former Sponsor
iTrader: (48)
 
harvey's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Darlington
Posts: 10,419
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

On the two you show, there is unlikely to be a lot of difference in terms of performance. Personally, I would go for the open mouth design. The problem with the separate waste gate pipe comes when the WG pipe merges back in to the main gas stream too early.
Old 25 January 2007, 06:00 PM
  #8  
swisstonihasher
Scooby Regular
 
swisstonihasher's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: South West
Posts: 1,568
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Hi Harvey, how's the 600 bhp monster doing with the help of Bob?

I can see the problem here, the WG gas flow ends up with back pressure on the actuator since its not able to clear the pipe, this then causes boost creep? Mine is split and about 10 percent shorter on length than the one in the picture but must admit I've not had boost creep issue, well, glad to say really!
Old 29 January 2007, 12:30 AM
  #9  
Spyder550
Scooby Regular
Thread Starter
 
Spyder550's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Hampshire
Posts: 379
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Hi guys thanks for the replies, as an aside to my original question.

If the wastegate was divorced off as below with a divider between wastegate & exhaust outlet to seperate them completely. Could I run a totally seperated exhausts for wastegate and exhaust itself. If so would there be any postive or negative side effects.

Old 29 January 2007, 06:35 AM
  #10  
rabskyline
Scooby Regular
 
rabskyline's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: sunshine coast, queensland ! hot hot hot !
Posts: 1,228
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

suppose that would be like having a huge long screamer pipe ! dont see any reason for you to do that actually ? might cause probs but i havent heard of any one doing that !
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
Mattybr5@MB Developments
Full Cars Breaking For Spares
28
28 December 2015 11:07 PM
Mattybr5@MB Developments
Full Cars Breaking For Spares
12
18 November 2015 07:03 AM
buckerz69
Wanted
2
03 October 2015 09:55 PM
sti 360
General Technical
6
02 October 2015 09:39 AM
Ganz1983
Subaru
5
02 October 2015 09:22 AM



Quick Reply: Divorced down pipe or not



All times are GMT +1. The time now is 03:29 PM.